Animal Posse DoggoneExpress: Training Dogs, Transforming Lives - Animal Posse

Episode 3

DoggoneExpress: Training Dogs, Transforming Lives

Published on: 14th February, 2025

Join us for an inspiring conversation with Bill Barse, the heart and soul behind DoggoneExpress. In this episode, Bill shares the incredible story of how DoggoneExpress came to be, driven by a passion to help both dogs and people in need. We delve into the organization's unique programs, including their impactful prison dog training program giving dogs a second chance. Bill also discusses the profound connections forged through their veteran support program, highlighting the therapeutic power of dogs and the healing they bring to those who have served. Hear firsthand about the unwavering dedication that fuels DoggoneExpress's mission to transform lives, one paw at a time. This is a story of hope, second chances, and the powerful bond between humans and animals you won't want to miss.

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Transcript
Dixie:

Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the

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people and rescues making a

difference in the lives of animals.

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Today's guest is Bill Barse.

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He is the founder and

director of DoggoneExpress.

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com.

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Hi, Bill.

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How are you today?

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Bill: Well, I'm fine Dixie

and you happy new year.

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Dixie: Happy new year to you.

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I'm great ! Not Looking

forward to this weather though

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Bill: it'll come and it'll go

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Dixie: so can you give us

a brief bio on yourself?

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Bill: Sure I was born and raised for

the most part in Massachusetts In New

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England and went to college in Ohio.

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I was studying pre med to be a

veterinarian, and then I had an

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accident playing ice hockey which

eliminated my career as a veterinarian,

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and I lived in the Washington, D.

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C.

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area up until the year after Katrina hit

down here, and during Katrina and Rita

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My brother and his family and all their

pets came to stay with me in Maryland,

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and they tried to convince me to leave

what I had up there and where I'd lived

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for 22 years to come to Louisiana and be a

real estate commercial industrial broker.

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That was my background, and I

agreed eventually to do that, and

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I came down here one year to the

day after Katrina and Rita hit.

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Yeah.

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And worked as a commercial industrial

real estate broker, primarily for

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offshore companies with heavy industrial

land and some commercial strip

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shopping centers that we're trying to

rebuild and reestablish themselves.

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But during that time, I also.

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continued my work with shelters, animal

shelters and befriended and got very close

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to helping the Humane Society of Louisiana

as an investigator for situations that

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may not be very desirable for animals.

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And somehow, some way, I found out

that there was so many dogs primarily

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canines here, struggling after Katrina,

and there weren't enough adoptions,

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and many of the rescues really needed

a way to get the dogs up north where

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they could be adopted, so I took

some of my earnings and bought five,

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four, five double tandem wheel homes.

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enclosed trailers and had them retrofitted

with insulation and air conditioning

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and I lent them to different rescues

that would drive anywhere from 15 maybe

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to 20 25 dogs up north to be adopted.

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I did not do the transports.

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But I lent out the equipment

and the generators and they

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just had to bring back.

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The trailers cleaned out and

gas and the generator and I just

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provided that equipment for free.

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And to make a long story short, at

one adoption event, I was introduced

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to a woman's daughter who was like

13 or 14 as the man who transported

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all these dogs up north for adoption.

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And I said, well, that's

not actually what I do.

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I provide the equipment and the

young girl said, well, what's

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the name of your business?

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And I said, well, my business is

I'm a real estate broker, but I

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just do the transport equipment.

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For those organizations and need it.

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And she said, well, you don't have a name.

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And I said, no, I just do

what they know who to call.

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And she goes, oh, okay,

well, I'll get you a name.

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And I said, okay.

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And I didn't pay too much attention to it.

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But about three to four months

later, I'm at another adoption event

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on the West Bank of New Orleans.

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And the mother of that child saw me.

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And she says, oh my gosh, I

gotta get my daughter Catherine.

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And I said, Oh, and I really didn't

remember her or her daughter, but

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her daughter came out of the Petco

store where we were doing an adoption

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with the Plaquemines Animal Welfare

Society, and she goes, Oh, my gosh.

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Oh, my gosh.

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Stay here.

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Don't go anywhere.

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I got something in my car.

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So she went into the parking lot.

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She came back.

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I'm going to call it an artist portfolio.

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It's like a large, like a leather or maybe

vinyl case where people put the artwork

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that they carry around all their flats and

nothing framed, but just pieces of paper

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that, you know, had art or things on it.

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And she says, I came up with

a name for your business.

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And I'm going, excuse me,

what are you talking about?

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She said, Yeah, I told you I'd

come up with a name because you

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take dogs and you get them sent

quickly up north to be adopted.

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And I go, Yeah, I do.

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But I don't do it.

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My equipment doesn't.

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She says, Well, the name of your

business should be DoggoneExpress.

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And in all fairness and all sincerity at

that time, the hair on my arms went up.

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And I just thought that was a name

that I thought it was pretty unique

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and clever and so I said, you know

what, I would like to buy that name

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from you and she said no, it's free.

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It's free.

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And she says, Oh look what I drew.

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And she pulled out a picture of a

dog that didn't have feet but had

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wheels, which we've now branded

as our logo called speed dog.

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So I convinced her mother to allow me

to give her a check for 150 for the

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exclusive rights for dog on express.

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And speed dog, which we have as

I speak today over the course of

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being with DoggoneExpress I tried

to find ways to help shelters get

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more dogs adopted down here along

with dogs being exported up north.

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And the people I talked to would

say, yeah, I'd love to adopt

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the dog, but I just don't have

time to train it or whatever.

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And these were shelter dogs.

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So we really didn't know their

background or their history.

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So I guess I went online one night and I

looked up dog training and whatever and

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I found that there was a Dominican nun

who lived in Wisconsin, Sister Pauline

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Quinn, who started the first inmate dog

training program for shelter dogs in the

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state of Washington at a women's prison.

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And I thought, oh, that's clever.

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That's a good thing for not only the

dogs, but for the inmates, you know,

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and the Department of Corrections.

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So I contacted her and ended up,

she called me back and she said,

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well, we'll sell you our program.

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We have it in operations successfully

in five prisons in California

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and the state of Washington.

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So I ended up giving them money to

acquire the program called Pathways

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to Hope, which became our program.

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And my senior vice president and our

attorney who's on our board, the Honorable

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Judge Diane Lundeen and I approached

and had a meeting with the Secretary

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James LeBlanc of the Department of the

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Public safety and corrections in Louisiana and proposed to Secretary LeBlanc free of

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charge that we would provide some inmate

training for a general obedience for dogs

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out of shelters and the agreement, which

became the memorandum of understanding

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that was signed by the Department of

Corrections and by Doggone Express gave us

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The segue or the lead in to both a women's

prison in Saint Gabriel and into a men's

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prison and Angie Louisiana called Rayburn.

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Now, 13 years later, we are starting.

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Programs in four different prisons

over and beyond the one that's

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been in existence for 13 years.

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And we also have along with from

the big house to your house.

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And that's what we call the inmate

prison programs and dogs that from

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that are primarily service dogs and

emotional support animals that are

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needed and utilized by a lot of veterans

and quite a few families where they

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may have a child who has a spectrum of

autism and for people who have physical

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challenges, whether they can't bend over,

they may be confined to a wheelchair.

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And we train dogs That come from shelters

to do specific task, and they do qualify

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under the American Disabilities Act

section two and three as service dogs.

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So we've had a great success with that.

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As of the end of last year, we

had placed over 770 dogs were.

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in shelters and or pulled from shelters,

which means shelters if they become

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overpopulated and they have animal control

that normally they just go down a list for

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the dogs that have been there the longest.

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And they are euthanized.

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It's unfortunate.

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It's a sad commentary on our society.

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We definitely need to have

more spay and neuter laws.

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But in the meantime, we pull

as many dogs from shelters.

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And from rescues who pull from shelters

and run these dogs through our programs.

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We don't sell the dogs.

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We ask a recipient and that is somebody

who would get a service dog from our big

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house to your house program to donate.

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150.

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That basically helps us offset

our insurance, our gasoline, our

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transportation, you know, Our

veterinarian bills and dog food,

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all of which we have to provide.

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The Department of Correction

does not provide any of that.

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So the donation is tax deductible,

and it's not a requirement, but

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it is something that we need.

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And, you know, advertises

we're seeking that donation

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to help continue the program.

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We have another program called

Companions for Life and Companions

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for Life is where we offer veterans

who have a DD 214 or discharge papers

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or sometimes active military who

are being treated for any number of

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physical as well as psychological.

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Challenges, whether it be PTSD,

anxiety, depression or they may have

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some prosthetic devices that encumber

their ability to cope in our society.

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So we provide some canine

training for these veterans.

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And it's getting ready to restart

because we had a slowdown due

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to covid and due to funding.

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And we also had to have a facility

in Jefferson Parish that was ADA

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compliant, which has now been completed.

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So in Harahan, we will.

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Offer free dog training to any veteran,

male or female, for whatever reason,

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once a week, and then we will also

provide them a YouTube channel password,

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where if they can't attend the training

in person, they can actually go to

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any number of our courses that we

will offer through a YouTube channel.

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And then once a month, we hope to do live

broadcast for anybody who is involved

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in the Companions for Life program so

they can watch and possibly interact

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with their laptops, their computers, or

their smartphones as we are demonstrating

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a specific skill or training technique

or proper animal care, which includes

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heartworm prevention, making sure their

nails are not too long, making sure

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that their ears are cleaned of mites

and basic grooming, all of which are.

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Very important for proper canine care.

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So, that's what we've got going on.

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We are also proposing to construct

some sea container kennels.

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We don't have a project name for it

other than the sea container kennels.

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Where we take a 40 foot sea container.

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And we modify it so we can house up

to 10 dogs in the stainless steel

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kennels on the inside, climate

controlled, with a 6 foot by 10 foot

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exterior chain link run, covered.

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on the outside.

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And these sea containers can be offered

to shelters that need more space.

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But they also could be sent to

parishes that have nothing in terms

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of any type of containment or shelter

for canines and any number of the 30

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parishes that have absolutely nothing

in the state of Louisiana for canines.

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So over and beyond that, I personally

am a deputy with the Washington

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Parish Sheriff's Department

and I handle animal issues.

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So if there is animals that

have been abandoned, mistreated,

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abused be it livestock.

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cattle, horses, goats, pigs,

chickens and or canines and cats.

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And we've had in one situation a hamster.

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It's not a happy story, but I did

get a call from a deputy one night.

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When he did a welfare check on an

individual who had been sick and the

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individual had passed away within the

last week and nobody knew it, and they

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didn't know what to do with the hamster

that was in a cage, so I told him, bring

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it into the station and I would rehome the

hamster, either with a school or we would

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find a good home for the hamster, so.

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Doesn't make any difference

what the size is.

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I don't re home fish and I don't really

get actively involved in wildlife even

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though I do get calls about coyotes and

Bear sightings because we have those in

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the Mount Hermon, Washington Parish area.

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Other than that, I take care of 8

horses, 3 donkeys, 1 pony, 2 cats,

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and presently where I am at the Humane

Society Sanctuary in Mount Hermon.

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We have 10 dogs, 5 of which are

being scheduled to go into our prison

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program as we get other dogs adopted.

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I don't have any spare time.

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So that's what I do.

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Dixie: Well, you're very busy.

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Some remarkable programs, so

I'd like to ask questions, too.

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Like about the general program.

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So when you go to select

the dogs, specific?

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I know in the shelters we

see a lot of mixed breeds.

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Is it a specific type of dog that you're

looking for to put into those programs?

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Bill: Well, that's an excellent question.

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Here's what I try to train

shelters to watch for.

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I want a dog that's dog friendly.

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Number one.

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I want a dog that preferably

is medium to large size.

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And it's not that I have anything to eat.

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With smaller dogs, it's just they

are harder to contain in the prison

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environment because if they go under

a fence in one of our dog yards,

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the trainers can't go after it.

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A correctional officer has to go after it.

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So all of the dogs we look

for are number one prefer.

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They can't be dog aggressive.

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We don't care about the breed.

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We prefer heartworm negative

only from the standpoint of

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cost of getting them treated.

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But that's kind of a rare situation

now is to find dogs that are

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heartworm negative in a shelter.

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We look for a dog that can focus.

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In other words, if I'm doing it myself,

I'll take a treat or something and

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let the dog in the kennel smell it.

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And then I'll hold it up to my forehead.

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And see how long that dog will

focus on that one little treat.

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And then I'll reward the dog with it.

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And if a dog can focus, and he's not

off the wall crazy, and you know,

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pretty stable on all fours, then we'll

consider that dog in our program.

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They have to be neutered or spayed.

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That's a requirement by the

Department of Corrections.

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But other than that, we've had.

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Everything, every type of dog.

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You can imagine.

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We've had some purebreds.

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We've had a lot of petty mixes.

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We've had a lot of Labradors, a lot of

shepherds, a lot of golden misbehaviors.

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That's what I call them.

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But golden retrievers and, the

trainers have done a wonderful job.

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They're with the dogs 24 7.

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The dogs sleep in a kennel under the

inmate trainers bed, caught in a dorm.

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So they get a lot of attention and they're

trained seven days a week, usually from

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the hours of 7 30 or so until dusk.

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When it's dark, the dogs

have to clear the yard.

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They can't be out in the

dark in the dog yard.

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Dixie: And then how long do they

normally stay in the program before

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they're trained and ready for adoption?

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Bill: Well, that's another good question.

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Sometimes it'll range maybe

eight weeks since we've got to

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make sure that they have all of

their general obedience recall.

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That is, you call their name,

that dog's gonna come to you.

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That's name recognition recall.

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Sit, down, stay, leave it.

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Are all very important.

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Leash or heel walking.

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In other words, not pulling on

a leash when they're leashed up.

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Cause dogs have to be off a

leash, on a leash, excuse me,

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when they're off their property.

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That's a state law.

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Some exceptions to that leash law

are service dogs that are working

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with somebody who is in a wheelchair,

and then they don't necessarily,

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by law, have to be on a leash.

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But any other dog in the state of

Maryland, whether it's a service dog,

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emotional support dog, a pet, has

to be on a leash off its property.

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The Training, like I said, can

range from maybe eight weeks or so.

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We do have a proficiency evaluation

procedure where we evaluate a dog over

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a couple of weeks to see if it hits

80 percent or higher on various tasks.

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That not only the trainer has the dog

do, but somebody else has the dog do.

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So it's not just the trainer

giving the dog the command.

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It could be another trainer or it could be

someone like me for more advanced training

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where we train a dog to retrieve by name.

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In other words, we could tell a

dog get glasses and a dog will

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go and try to find eyeglasses and

bring them back to the recipient.

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Get meds.

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The dog will go into a kitchen

or a bathroom where there may be

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prescription bottles out on the

counter and bring One prescription

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bottle at a time to the recipient.

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We can't train the dog

to read the prescription.

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So it just continues to get the

bottles until the recipient gets the

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medication that they're requesting.

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We also train the dogs to pick up things

that somebody who may have titanium

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rods in their back or may have back.

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Or arm issues where they can't bend over

and pick up things, a dog will immediately

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pick up anything that's dropped and raise

it up so that the recipient can handle

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that which has been dropped since the

recipient can't bend over and get it and

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some of the training can last over a year.

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I'm going to say in the average, probably

90 days to 120 days is probably average.

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three to four months.

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Dixie: Not too bad.

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I thought it would be a

little bit longer than that.

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Now, how many dogs have you adopted out

from the program since its inception?

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Bill: We've placed over 770

dogs as of the close of:

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Dixie: Wow, that's amazing.

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Now what is the adoption process like if

somebody was interested in adopting a dog?

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Bill: Well, we do have an application.

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They contact us.

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We get a lot of referrals from the

VA, the Veterans Administration.

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Many people search online.

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And Doggone Express pops up on the

first or second page of Google now.

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I'm not exactly sure, but if you looked up

service dogs in Louisiana, DoggoneExpress.

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com would pop up.

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You could contact us by phone or by email.

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We send out an application.

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We review the application.

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We call the recipient, proposed recipient,

to get a little bit more information.

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Kind of get a gauge on

their type of lifestyle.

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Because we're not going to place a

high energy service dog with someone

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who is basically I am not using this

negatively, but like a couch potato,

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somebody who's not very active who

just wants something to be next to

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them and cuddle with them as they watch

TV or knit or whatever they're doing.

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So we.

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Kind of do a informal profile of the

recipient so that when we send them

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videos, which we do, they can see

the videos of the dogs being trained.

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So, you know, if one of them is

interested in a medium sized dog.

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Preferably a male, whatever, then we

can send them videos of dogs that may

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have some of the skills and trained

to meet the needs of the recipient

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and they can watch the dogs over a

period of time as they go through their

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training so they can see their process.

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In some situations, if they get clearance,

in other words, if they don't have any

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felonies or pending legal situations,

we can actually get clearance for them

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to actually come into the prison and

meet the trainer and meet the dog.

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And if there's good chemistry, and

it's usually me who makes the ultimate

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decision, like, yeah, it's a go, or

I don't think this is the right fit.

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Let's just keep working on

another canine or whatever.

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They can take the dog, the canine, for

a week we'll hold the donation check

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if necessary for a week to make sure

it's a good fit, and they can take

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all the medical information we have

on the dog to their vet to have the

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dog checked out, and then after that

one week, We call it a test drive.

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If everything's working out,

then it's a formal adoption.

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We send them the microchip

information, the rabies tags,

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and we consider the dog adopted.

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Dixie: I do have another question,

too, about the adoption process.

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So, as far as the dogs that are

available, do you have a list of the

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dogs that are available or are you

the one that does more of the matching?

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And then the other question is, if

somebody is in another state, do you

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adopt out of state or you primarily do

with the adoptions within Louisiana?

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Bill: The first question is, we have in

the past on our website, DogOnExpress.

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com, have on the very first page,

a place where you can see dogs

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that are available for adoption.

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And you go all the way down to the bottom

of the first page of Doggone Express.

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And unfortunately, we're working on this.

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Most of the dogs that you can

see there now have been adopted.

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We're getting ready to take more dogs in.

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I'm taking two in tomorrow that

will start being on our website as

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Marley and Otis as adoptable dogs.

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These two dogs will primarily be trained

for brace and stability, because I

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have two veterans right now who need

a stability dog because they're having

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problems maintaining their equilibrium.

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they need some kind of dog that's trained

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to brace so they can actually put their

hands on their vest and hold collar as we

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call it and Get back up off the ground.

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Now these air stability brace dogs and

I have two large dogs that are going

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in after a vet appointment tomorrow at

10 30 into Rayburn prison for training.

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Dixie: That was, if you do adoptions

primarily to, residents of Louisiana,

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or do you do out of state adoptions?

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And then I guess if you do the

out of state adoptions, would you

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do like a transport or do they

have to come pick up the dog?

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Bill: They have to come pick up the dog.

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We do not ship dogs.

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We will not ship dogs.

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We've placed dogs in Michigan,

we've placed dogs in New Mexico,

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we've placed dogs in Texas, we've

placed dogs in Florida, and in all

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situations the people either had to

fly in and then rent a car and take

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the dog out, but we will not ship.

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We will not put any dog on any plane.

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Dixie: You said too that

you had Marley and Otis.

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You're training those to

be like stability dogs?

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Yes.

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So if, what if somebody contacts you

and they say, Hey, we're looking for

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a particular type of service dog.

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Would you be able to potentially

put a dog in the program to make a

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service dog as requested, I guess?

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Bill: For some situations, we can't

train a dog to do a specific thing.

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For instance, we get a lot of

calls from people say, can you

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train a dog for epileptic seizures?

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And we say politely, no, because

that requires the dog to be

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trained with the individual.

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And we can't have individuals

coming into the prison for training.

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We don't do diabetic alert dogs

because the diabetic alert is based

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on a specific smell that comes from a

cotton swab of somebody who's having

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a low blood sugar situation and that's

a specific smell for that person.

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So we don't do epileptic

or seizure alert dogs.

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We don't do diabetic alert dogs.

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We don't do seeing eye dogs.

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But we do cover people

who've had hearing issues.

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We've actually trained at Rayburn

Prison in Angie, Louisiana, deaf

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dogs for people who had no hearing.

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Who then, also the recipient.

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Was had a loss of hearing, and we had a

trainer who would train the dog, believe

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it or not, an American sign language

so that the person who received the dog

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could use American sign language and the

dog would respond by, you know, coming.

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whatever.

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And the way that we had somebody

who was hard of hearing or

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couldn't hear and also was mute.

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The question was, well, how do you train

a dog to come when that person wants them?

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So we trained the dog with

just a vibrating collar.

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That's all it did is vibrate.

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So if you pushed a little sending unit

The collar would vibrate and the dog was

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trained to look for whoever's giving them

the come signal with their hand, which

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is the palm facing out and then bringing

it back towards your face, like, come

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here, but there's no sound or whatever.

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It's just the dog following

the hand signal to come.

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Dixie: Wow.

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That way the dog That's amazing.

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Bill: Well, sometimes the dog's in another

part of the house or maybe in the yard.

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And, you know, you can't stomp

your floor in the house and have a

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dog out in the yard here, but this

little vibrating collar, which is

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rechargeable, and all it does is vibrate.

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There's no shock.

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There's no sound.

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It just vibrates.

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And the dog's trained to look

for whoever is signaling to come.

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And the dog would go to that person.

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Dixie: You got the idea from the

program, that was already, in Well,

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Bill: actually, it was, it's, I didn't

mean to interrupt, but it was actually

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started by a Dominican nun, Sister Pauline

Quinn, and the first, very first inmate

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training program was at a women's prison

in the state of Washington in:

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Now, there's probably 30 states

that have some kind of jail or

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prison dog training programs.

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And they're actually working in some

situations with cats that are being

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pulled from shelters to work with

some of the inmates who have some

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emotional or psychological problems.

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As a companion animal and the cats

are getting a lot of attention and

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the inmates are getting some kind

of emotional support, which can

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be used to modify their behavior.

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In other words, if you want to have a

cat or you're going to train a service

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dog, you can't have any write ups.

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You can't get in trouble.

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You can't be a problem inmate.

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So prisons use it as a

behavior modifier, too.

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Which I have no problem with.

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But a lot of people have asked,

Well, would you give somebody who's

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a murderer a service dog to train?

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And I go I don't.

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have any control over someone's

past, whatever they've done.

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And our judicial system has said, you need

to be incarcerated for a period of time.

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That's already done.

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The only ones I will not allow in our

training programs at any time is someone

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who's been charged with Animal abuse,

not convicted of charged with if they've

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been charged with that, they're not in

our program can't be in our program.

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But . We've had people

who have stolen have.

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Burglarized received stolen

property, sold drugs.

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Yes, that runs across the whole spectrum.

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been charged with animal abuse.

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Dixie: Do you ever have people from

other areas reach out to you to ask

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you about starting a program or how

they can start a program like this?

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Bill: Oh, yes.

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Oh, yes.

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We'd be more than willing.

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We invite them to come visit our program.

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I get people from different

correctional facilities who

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want to come see how we do it.

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And as long as they pass the clearance

test, the security evaluation by the

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Department of Corrections and the

ward and say, yeah, they're fine.

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They can come in.

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We set up a time where they come

visit and we'll give them, you

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know, all of the forms that we use.

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And they can model their program

after hours, or like I said, there's

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probably 30 states now who have some

variation of a program like we have,

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we just happen to be the largest in

the state of Louisiana, the women's.

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Prison program is being run by one of

my contract trainers, Brooke Defoe.

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She owns the Dog School of New Orleans,

and she's worked with me and had been

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in our prison program as a trainer,

and she's running the women's program.

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So, we got the prisons covered.

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Dixie: Now I'd like to hear more

about the training for veterans,

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too, in Harahan, Louisiana

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Bill: yes.

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Harahan, St.

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Tammany Parish, and Washington Parish.

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Three parishes.

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Dixie: How would somebody sign

up for that, if that's something

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that they were interested in?

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Bill: Contact me at my email address,

or go to Doggone Express, and

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there's phone numbers and email,

and that's all they have to do.

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One of our trainers will

call them and set up a time.

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We do try to keep the

classes less than 10 people.

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Only because we need to also do

group as well as individual training.

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These classes are once a week, they

can come as long as they want to

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come, there's no certain time frame.

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It's not like a 6 week course or a

10 week course, they can come, we've

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had some come for several years.

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because they like the camaraderie.

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They met other veterans who became their

friends and their dogs got along and

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they look forward to it once a week.

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Dixie: And so everybody has at

your website, it's DoggoneExpress.

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com.

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Is that correct?

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Bill: That is correct, Dixie.

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Yes.

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Dixie: And would you like to give

everybody to your email address?

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Sure.

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Bill: It's the letter

L, like in Louisiana.

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And my first name, William, W I L I A M.

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Last name is Bars, B as in boy, A R S E.

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It's all run together.

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You don't have to have

caps or anything like that.

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It's LWilliamBars at A O L dot com.

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Dixie: I want to thank you for

taking the time to speak with me.

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I really enjoyed learning about

all these wonderful programs

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Bill: Well, this has been the

best podcast I've had all year.

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Dixie: I hope so.

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Bill: Oh, by far.

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And great questions.

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And if any of your listeners have

questions, and they want to contact

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you certainly, I think I know you,

and your co work, and the co hosts of

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your program, podcast, well enough to,

you know, you can refer them to me,

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or you can give them my phone number.

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Dixie: I certainly can.

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And I'll make sure I put all of your

information too in the, description , so

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that way everybody will have your, email

address as well as the doggone express.

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com link.

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Bill: That'll be great.

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That'll be great.

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Dixie: All right.

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Well, thank you so much.

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Bill: Well, thank you.

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I hope you have a great 2025 to

you and your co host and maybe

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sometime if you ever come up to

where I live up in Mount Hermon.

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If you do come up sometime, maybe

we can go out and have dinner.

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Dixie: That sounds like a plan.

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Bill: Thank you.

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Dixie: And that's all the time

we have for today's episode.

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If you are in animal rescue, or if

you know someone that has a story that

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should be told, please contact us.

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We would love to have

you or them on the show

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Thanks for listening, and please join us next week as we continue to

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explore the world of animal rescue.

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