Episode 5
Episode 5 - Lola & Friends Bunny Rescue of South MS
James Johnson, founder and owner of Lola & Friends Bunny Rescue of South MS, joins us to discuss the ins and outs of rescuing bunnies.
Learn more about the work James does here in his group: Lola & Friends Bunny Rescue of South MS Inc. | Facebook
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Transcript
Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the
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:people and rescues making a
difference in the lives of animals.
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:Today we are chatting with the owner and
founder of Lola and Friends Bunny Rescue
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:of South Mississippi, James Johnson
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Hi, James.
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:How's it going?
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:James: Well, it's going good.
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:Just a lot of work with
all the bunnies, I guess.
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:Dixie: Yeah, I'm excited to talk to a
bunny rescue because, I've always just
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:dealt with cat rescues or dog rescues.
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:. So, you're the first bunny
rescue I've ever talked to.
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:James: Well, I guess that's good.
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:I mean, I deal with a lot of the cat
rescues also because a lot of people
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:dump the bunnies in the cat colonies
then the bunny was trying to eat the
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:cat food and of course, and I'll get
tagged and they'll let me know about it.
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:And so I'll go catch the bunny,
that's just within the cats.
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:And so.
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:we work with the cat rescuers quite a bit,
and that's how we know that there's no
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:bunnies at Lafreniere Park in Metairie,
is because of the girls that walk the
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:track feeding the cats every morning.
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:They're basically like a
lookout for the bunnies.
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:So if they spot a bunny, they
usually tell us, or one of the
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:local rescues there, the Jefferson
SPCA, or Miss Donna with Bun again.
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:Dixie: What is the mission of your
rescue, and what are the core values
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James: Well, we basically set up to, we don't usually intake bunnies just
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:because somebody don't want it anymore.
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:Now if they go and dump it later, we
can't control that, but basically what
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:we decided to start doing with our
rescue is, we noticed that there was
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:quite a few bunnies being dumped after
Easter, after Christmas, after certain
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:holidays where they're given as a gift,
and so we decided to run a rescue.
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:My wife had a couple bunnies, she got
attached to them, we happened to find
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:one running loose, and it just kind
of started from there but, What our
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:core values are is we try to rescue
the bunnies that's running loose in
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:the neighborhoods It's been dumped.
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:Either, they're most of them dumped or not
in very good shape Most of them are sick.
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:They got parasites.
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:So, we try to rescue those and get them
the care they need, get them spayed and
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:neutered, and then we try to adopt them
out to a safe indoor home with so many
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:dumped bunnies that finding a home for all
of them is proving to be pretty difficult.
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:But that's what our mission is, to
try to rescue the bunnies that's out
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:on the streets, that's in the parks
that's running loose and try to Catch
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:them before they, they die, and it's
usually starved to death or get attacked
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:by, a predator and are hit by a car.
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:And so we try to get those and get them
off the streets before they, they pass
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:away and get them the care they need
and rehabilitate them and then try to
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:find them a safe, loving indoor home.
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:Philip: I always find that
whenever a fair comes through town.
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:You start to notice dumped
bunnies around somewhere.
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:It's like the show prizes the
fun ran out after the fair's gone
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:and now they're running loose.
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:James: Well, we do have
an issue with that.
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:And of all places,
Alabama has banned that.
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:I mean, Alabama and Mississippi,
Louisiana with the bottom of
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:the list for a lot of things.
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:At least Alabama stood
up with that and banned.
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:They passed the law and banned the giving
away of any type animal at the fairs.
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:So the local circus, the local fairs
that Louisiana, Mississippi hires
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:is located in North Mississippi.
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:They and they usually go to the Catholic.
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:Churches and to these little fairs
out in the country and they you
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:throw a ball in a little bowl and
you get a goldfish or a bunny.
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:It depends on which booth you're at we
actually had it shut down here along the
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:coast at the catholic churches We alerted
all the churches that they were giving
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:away live animals so the catholic churches
told the they still hired the circuses or
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:the amusement company to come in, but they
told them not to bring any live animals.
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:But it's still, big issue,
especially in Louisiana.
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:They have a lot of fairs in north,
middle of the state, and it's the
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:same one that does ours over here.
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:They bring those bunnies
that, that people walk up.
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:The people are not prepared
to take the bunny home.
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:The kid wins a prize that they
give the parents the bunny.
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:Next thing they get home and realize that
they don't want it and off in the streets.
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:It goes if it survives.
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:Most of these bunnies given as gifts
don't even live to be six months old.
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:most of them perish, before that
they even get dumped because of the
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:mishandling of the small child that,
That somehow just harms a bunny or
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:breaks his back or whatever case
drops it and the bunny passes away,
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:Dixie: I know we've seen that here
where they have a old mall they were
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:having some fairs and they were doing
Giveaways of bunnies and iguanas and
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:every time that they see them out there.
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:Luckily they have stopped them
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:right
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:but I mean they'll keep coming back
and you'll see the whole thing again
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:where they're giving the bunnies
away And they'll go over there and
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:try to put an end to that as well.
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:Because I can't imagine how
healthy they are when they do
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:go home they're sitting out
in the sun during these events.
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:James: Right.
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:And most of them come
from a backyard breeder.
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:And so the bunnies, you're right,
they're not healthy to start with.
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:None of them have any vet care.
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:Every bunny I catch has been dumped.
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:Well, most of them,
especially at Kenner Park.
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:I mean, we finally cleared Kenner Park
a month or so ago, the last bunny.
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:I had the signs put up.
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:And I'm in Mississippi.
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:Of course, and I'm working with Jeff
Dorson with the Humane Society, but
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:we've had signs put up at Kenner Park
and Lafreniere Park, hoping that they'll
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:stop dumping the bunnies at the park.
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:And there is a law that Somebody
sees them actually doing it,
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:they can be arrested and fined.
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:But but luckily Lafreniere has been
bunny free for, I think since March.
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:Kenner Park's been bunny
free for two months now.
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:And I actually decided just to keep
the first bunny and the last bunny.
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:We called it Kenner Park.
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:And just because , it was so many
of them that, I thought it would
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:be better, it would be kind of
fun just to have her with us.
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:But yeah, it's a problem that the fairs
come through the circuses and like you
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:said that they're getting the bunnies
from probably one of the worst places
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:they could get them and Then the kids
if they don't the kids don't mishandle
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:or they're rough, the kids don't know
no better You know, I mean they're
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:they got home They were they went home
with a live animal that they don't even
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:know how to care for neither do the
parents So they're mishandling the bunny
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:and it's a delicate animal to start
with And so, even if it survives past
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:that, then, like you said, the small
bunnies, most of them have parasites.
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:They're raised in the backyard in these
cages, full of feces, full of urine, and,
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:they probably got intestinal parasites
and, no matter, telling what else.
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:And so, and not that anything a
bunny has can transmit to a human.
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:But it's still the bunny.
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:Even if the child does care for the
bunny dies in front of the child.
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:And then that's traumatic for the
kid that has to watch the bunny die.
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:The kid that does care about the bunny and
treats it right and then has to watch it
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:pass away because of some type of disease.
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:So that's kind of sad, too, and
so we don't know what to do.
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:We've tried to get laws
passed in Mississippi.
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:Louisiana actually has a law that's been
put on the books and has been turned down
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:a couple of times that one of the senators
there in the state of Louisiana had put
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:a law in place to where they try to stop
live animals given away at fairs as gifts.
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:But up to now, it hadn't passed.
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:It just sits there.
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:I don't know.
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:I've talked to Jeff about it with
the Humane Society, and I don't know
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:how that works, but somehow it just
sits there until they want to bring
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:it up and discuss it and pass it.
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:Dixie: Yeah, it's a shame.
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:It really is.
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:Now you do a lot of the rescues in
Louisiana, but you are in Mississippi.
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:So how did you first become aware
of the issue with the bunnies
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:being in the parks in Louisiana?
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:James: So when we first started,
we had a couple of bunnies.
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:My wife, babysit a bunny for a
little girl that was in the military.
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:She went overseas and asked my wife Sherry
if she could watch the bunny until she
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:come back Well, she never come back not
because she didn't want to because she
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:just she got stationed there and she
didn't come back in enough time and we
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:kept the bunny four or five years and
it passed away from old age So Sherry
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:had become attached to it and we got
another one from I don't know I think
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:we was traveling and seeing it posted
on facebook or something and we went
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:and when we got her and that was Lola,
which is the rescues named after so she
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:lived to be nine or ten and In that time
we rescued a couple more that we just
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:saw it on the streets and it started
that way But we didn't have a vet local.
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:There's no exotic vets around that
can do bunnies So the best exotic
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:vet one of the best in the along the
whole south southern states is Dr.
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:Rich and Dr.
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:Pence at Avian and Exotic Animal
Hospital of Louisiana there in Metairie.
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:So we started bringing the bunnies over
there and As you know as we started
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:bringing our personal bunnies We met Miss
June who run the House Rabbits Society of
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:Louisiana at the time and she was one of
the rescues that Was good friends with Dr.
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:Rich.
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:She was Getting older and was
retiring and she kind of put us
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:under her wing and that's how we
kind of got kicked off and started.
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:She kind of backed us as we were getting
going with the rescue and helped us along
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:the way so we that's how our ties in
louisiana become how we got over there
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:with the vet being in metairie And as
we went we started learning that there
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:was a ton of bunnies in the park Dr.
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:Rich would tell us Ms June would say,
there's bunnies in the parks and so after
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:we got kind of established we decided to
go, you know You full steam and see how
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:many bunnies there actually was and ended
up being, you know anywhere from 60 to 80
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:at Lafreniere Park and I think 40 to maybe
40 to 60 at Kenner Overall in the last
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:year and six months that we've actually
caught every bunny in both of those parks
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:Dixie: Yeah, that's amazing.
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:You do a lot of great work
catching those bunnies.
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:I do see the post on
Facebook all the time too.
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:And it's very sad
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James: It is.
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:And with that being said, I don't want
to leave out with the Jefferson S.
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:P.
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:C.
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:A.
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:And Miss Donna with Bun
again have helped out a lot.
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:Even though we was back and forth a lot
ourselves, they did a lot to help us also.
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:And and with the Jefferson SPCA,
any bunny caught over there,
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:within Jefferson Parish, was fixed
under the Fix A Rabbit program.
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:So that helped us tremendously too.
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:So, that was another incentive to catch
the bunnies in that area, that we was
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:able to get them fixed and spayed and
neutered at a good cost and that helped
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:a lot too, but yeah with Bun Again
and with the Jefferson SPCA and Rachel
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:and Hannah Over there and Mary at
Jefferson feed it they helped a lot too.
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:Wasn't just Lola's we kind of headed the
thing But they did a lot to help along
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:the way and as we caught the bunnies
and met with the people who walked
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:the park in Lafreniere with the cat
rescue and they fed the cats every day.
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:We post in the local groups about
the bunnies and people would start
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:seeing the bunnies running loose in
neighborhoods and they will start
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:catching them and bringing them to the
shelter to get them off the street.
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:But they didn't know no better.
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:They thought , it was a wild bunny.
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:It's it can survive.
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:Well, it's a domesticated bunny, but it
can live just like a wild bunny and they
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:can't.
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:Well when people realized that a lot
of people within these groups started
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:catching the bunnies themselves and
taking them to the shelter So that
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:helped us also now it didn't help
the shelters any because they maxed
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:out the Shit, we're all full now.
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:So it's like it's hard to catch
bunnies And bring them anywhere because
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:everybody's just loaded with bunnies
now you catch five and adopt one and
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:at that ratio you never catch up We
don't get as many post of bunnies
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:loose as we used to, over here along
the coast, we hardly get any anymore.
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:Now, with New Orleans and Metairie and
Kenner being the size it is, I mean, they
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:still get, get some over there, but it's
nowhere near, the five or six or seven
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:each day that we were seeing posted.
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:Now it's one, one or two or three a week.
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:And now it's at the same
location over and over.
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:So it's probably a breed or
somewhere in these certain areas.
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:That's just letting them
loose, but it's gotten better.
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:People's, kind of got educated with
all of us doing the rescue with the
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:post and the local social media groups.
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:And it's helped, it's helped
educate the public on the bunnies.
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:And hopefully it'll help people stop
from dumping them and letting them loose.
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:Dixie: I do cat rescue and I know
with the cats, it's k ind of a
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:similar situation to the bunnies.
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:And the problem with the cats
is that they reproduce so fast.
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:They can reproduce at four months.
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:What is that like for the bunnies?
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:Like how many bunnies, it'll
become exponential for the cats.
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:So I imagine it's gotta be
even worse for the bunnies.
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:James: Right.
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:I wish it was only four months.
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:So bunnies can reproduce every 28 days.
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:Dixie: Wow.
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:I didn't know that.
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:James: They're a fertile 365 days
out of the year as soon as they have
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:one litter as soon as that last baby
comes out She can get pregnant again.
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:So my first rescue at kenner park I was
a little black and white dutch bunny.
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:I didn't go there to catch her.
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:I went there to catch four
babies that were underneath
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:the bathroom at Kenner Park.
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:So when I got there, the babies
that were hard to catch, they
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:were burrowed under the bathroom.
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:They would go in and out of a hole.
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:So, I ended up catching four bunnies.
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:Well, the mother come and just kind of
walked up and sat between my legs, and
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:I was going to catch her last, just so
she could keep feeding the babies that
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:I didn't catch and I was going to catch
her last when I caught all the babies.
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:Well, she walked up when I picked her up.
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:She's pregnant.
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:You could feel the babies
inside her already moving.
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:So, I went ahead and caught her,
and then got lucky and caught
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:all four babies, four weeks old.
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:Within two days, she had five more babies.
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:So, I had a mother bunny in
my rescue that I just caught.
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:With four, four week old babies
and five brand new newborn babies.
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:So yeah, , they're always fertile.
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:All 365 days out of the year
and they can have a little litter
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:between 28 - 32 days every 28
-32 days And it's been rumored.
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:I don't know if this is true.
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:i'd have to ask dr Rich for sure i've
heard a lot of people say that they can
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:carry two litters at once I personally
don't believe that but i've heard a
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:lot of people say that they can do that
people that has a lot of bunny knowledge
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:more than I do, but I've never seen it.
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:And they can have anywhere
from six to 14 or 15 babies.
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:So.
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:And they can reproduce at four months old.
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:So I mean It's just it's a bad scenario
for everything These bunnies can go
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:from a male and a female two bunnies.
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:They can have a litter in 28 days In
four months, those babies can reproduce.
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:So, I mean, you're looking at
just an ungodly amount of bunnies
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:in a matter of six months.
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:But there's so many predators out there
that will, that the bunnies hurt nothing.
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:Everything hurts them.
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:That's the way you see it.
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:Bunnies, they have no voice.
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:They can't, they harm nothing.
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:They dig holes.
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:That's all they do.
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:But everything harms them.
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:So even though they can produce like
this at Kenner and Lafreniere Park,
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:even though we caught almost 200 bunnies
between both parks, there's probably
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:400 or 500 bunnies within those two
years that, that was out there that
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:just passed away from either being born
dead, not surviving within a week or
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:two because of where they were born.
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:Living three or four weeks and catching
parasites and dying because of the
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:ducks and birds and chickens that run
loose So even though we caught 200
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:that sounds like an ungodly number
That number probably was double that if
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:truth be known just because the other
half of them died but that's, that's
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:just what happens when they're done.
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:People don't realize that.
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:They don't know.
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:But sometimes it don't matter.
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:Sometimes they just get the
animal and can't deal with it.
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:They don't get it spayed or
neutered and they just let it loose.
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:I mean, a lot of people just don't
really care what happens to it.
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:It's sad to say, just like the
cats, they just let them loose and
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:don't really care what happens,
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:Now, how many rabbits do you
typically have in your care at a
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:giving time and are you foster based?
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:James: Well, I wish.
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:We do have some fosters, but right now
when they got to 100, I stopped counting.
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:I'd have to add Sherry, but we've
probably got over 100 bunnies.
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:15 to 20 of them are personal bunnies
or they're medical bunnies or they're
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:senior bunnies that, We can't adopt out
because they have to go to the vet every
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:couple months They're eight or nine or
ten years old Or they're just our personal
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:bunnies that we've had for quite a while
now and they're just ours But the rest
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:on we've like I said, we've got close to
100 Probably 105 bunnies that right now.
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:That i'm sitting here looking
at while I talk to you a lot
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:of them were single bunnies.
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:I've got a few that were babies.
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:Like I still have some of those
to the four babies and five
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:from a year ago, the duchess.
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:And so a lot of times I'll catch a female
and one bunny turns into seven or eight.
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:So if you've got four or five
bunnies at the park and you catch a
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:female, good chance she's pregnant.
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:She's either pregnant or she's got a
little baby somewhere around the park.
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:Just because of the way They multiply.
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:But yeah, we I've got a prior to 105
bunnies right now on in the rescue
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:Maybe six or eight fosters out,
maybe 10 out with fosters.
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:So it's not a lot of fosters over here.
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:It's not as much as we advertise and
we own the news and this and that.
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:It's just not a lot of people that
are interested in a bunny, the ones
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:that like them will come and get one.
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:The ones that don't, it's just
that, they just don't believe
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:that a bunny should be inside.
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:And we don't adopt anybody that puts
them outside in cages, of course.
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:Dixie: Where are they available
for, to see for adoption?
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:Do they have to contact you to see or do
you have a website that you list them on?
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:James: We don't have a website.
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:We do have the Facebook group.
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:And like I said, we just started
this maybe a year and six months ago.
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:So everything and with my wife working
which I retired from the city fire
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:department here local, but I worked
full time again and I still work part
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:time with another local fire department.
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:So with all the jobs, basically
I work seven to three.
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:She works three to midnight.
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:So we don't even see each other.
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:We don't see each other
until midnight, basically.
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:So she does her chores with
the bunnies during the day.
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:I come home, do my part during the night.
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:So it takes a lot, but we had
no time to do a website, but
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:we do have our Facebook group.
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:My personal pages turned
into a bunny page.
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:But it's Lola and Friends Bunny Rescue
of South Mississippi is our local group
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:and they can post in there and they
can see bunnies that we post there
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:they, can comment or they can, leave
a message or they can contact me and
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:and we're on the news and I'm posting
different groups and here and there.
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:And that may hurt me some i'm not
like some of the bigger rescues
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:thats been around a while that
has websites and this and that so
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:but as time goes by i'll get that.
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:I just have to find time to do it
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:The bunnies are pet finder.
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:We do have bunnies on pet finder So lola
and friends bunny rescue is on pet finder
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:and we do have bunnies there that they can
go and look at and If they're interested,
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:but yeah, they can come to the rescue.
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:We're in biloxi north of biloxi you know
if they want to come out and my phone
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:number stuff I think is on the group page
If it's not they can, leave a message
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:or message me But we usually have people
come out anywhere from like 11 o'clock
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:in the morning to two or three in the
afternoon That's the time frame that
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:Sherry's here to do adoptions and for
people to see the bunnies and see the
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:rescue And a lot of times they just want
to come out and look, and that's fine too.
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:The more people that see it, the more
people that can talk, whether they
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:adopt or not, word of mouth is good too.
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:But yeah Monday through
Saturday, it's like 11 a.
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:m.
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:to 2.
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:30 p.
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:m.
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:And then Sunday, Monday, we can, different
hours because Sherry's off those days.
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:And we can accommodate different hours
on days like on Sundays and Mondays.
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:Philip: What would the average
lifespan be of a bunny that is
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:completely healthy, it's been vetted,
it gets the proper care, how long
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:would they be able to keep a bunny?
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:James: Well It's anywhere from
8 to 14 years same as a dog if
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:they get the proper care the
proper diet and they're fed, right
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:hey, you know a good quality pellet and
then they go see a good exotic vet They
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:can live anywhere from 8 to 14 years
and if they give them a proper diet, and
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:it's mostly it's 80 percent hay and 20
cent pellets and A lot of people like
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:to give them cilantro and green leaf
lettuce and red leaf lettuce Every day.
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:I don't, well, I got a hundred
bunnies, I can't afford it.
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:I'd have to have 50 acre for to afford
it, but I don't give a lot of greens
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:because it produces gas and it just
causes issues with their digestive system.
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:So, but a lot of people do.
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:And it's okay to do that.
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:We just don't.
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:And but like I said, hay, good quality,
pellet fresh water, a, a good ample
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:space to run and hop and jump anywhere
from eight to, to 12 to 14 years.
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:So we got.
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:Six or eight bunnies here.
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:that's nine years.
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:We got one that's eleven and a half.
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:Some seven and eight.
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:And then we've had some just die.
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:We walk out and some would just
be passed away at six or seven
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:years for no other reason.
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:I we blame it on inbreeding.
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:You never know where
the bunnies come from.
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:And most of your breeders just breed
mom to, dad or dad, to the daughter.
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:And, it's it breeds the
immunity out of them.
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:And it makes a bunny that just
don't live as long as they should.
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:Yeah.
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:Dixie: Now, How is your rescue funded?
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:James: Well, it's funded
through donations.
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:We are a 501 C3 nonprofit.
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:We, of course, like most rescues,
a lot comes out of our pocket,
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:but we have people who donate and
we pull in a sick bunny people
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:donate and help cover the cost.
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:A lot comes out of our pocket
and it's donation based also.
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:We actually just a couple months ago, we
got the best non profit along the coast.
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:We had a the TV station, Channel
25, run a thing with all the non
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:profits and different things.
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:And we won the best non profit
and the best animal rescue
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:along the coast over here.
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:Oh, congratulations.
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:Yeah, pretty good little thing for us.
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:And that got us some some
publicity out there also.
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:But yeah, mostly donation based
and out of pocket, of course.
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:I mean, you're not going to get donations
for every single bunny you bring in.
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:Just don't happen that way.
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:So, you run a rescue just with
the cats and everything else.
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:A lot of times you just hope that you
can get, As much funded as you can,
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:Dixie: Yeah, I totally get that.
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:Dr.
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:Mark was our first episode.
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:And that's what he was saying.
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:People open a rescue thinking they're
just going to get donation money
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:flowing in and it doesn't work that way.
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:You'll get some, but you've
got to come out of pocket.
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:James: You do.
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:And if you get a big chunk, I mean, it
seems like every time we get donations
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:and get enough built up to spay and neuter
the bunnies, we catch a bunny that's got
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:some major issue and it just eats it
up and being a rescue, we still get,
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:they give us good deals on the bunny.
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:So, even with that, we have to
amputate a leg or we have to go
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:and do something inside the ear
canal or any type of major surgery.
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:It's still, a couple
grand to get that done.
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:And we've had, four, five, six bunnies
here in the last six months that had to
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:have legs amputated because they were just
hanging off of them when we caught them.
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:And bones sticking out or whatever
reason the leg had to be removed.
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:And that just eats up it.
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:It's all right.
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:The bunnies hear me talking.
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:So that's something and
it eats up your donations.
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:One bunny can take away all your donations
that would spayed and neutered 30 bunnies,
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:But I mean, we just you have to
pick up an extra shift at work.
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:Everybody's not gonna bring in donations.
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:It's the ones that sick and
tugs at somebody's heart that
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:brings in the most donations.
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:We go catch a bunny that's That looks
perfectly healthy, even though he may
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:have parasites, and it's not going
to be a big, other than the spay
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:and neuter being the biggest cost.
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:I don't even post it asking for donations
because a lot of people won't donate.
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:Not because they don't want
to, just because it looks
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:like the bunny don't need it.
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:The bunnies who bring in, and I
don't go looking for sick bunnies.
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:I don't want sick bunnies.
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:But the most bunnies, the bunnies
who bring in the most donations are
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:the bunnies that just look horrible.
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:But then again, they eat up all
your donations that even though
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:people donate for that bunny,
it's still in such bad shape.
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:It takes every bit of that
plus some to get it healthy.
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:So it's kind of like I hadn't
figured out how to do it yet.
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:And we don't like to ask donations all
the time because you lose your followers.
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:When you start asking for donations every
single day, it's like people go, hold
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:on something right here and with the
way the economy is in times where people
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:don't have the money they used to have.
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:So I don't like asking for
donations all the time, because
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:people They'll get tired of that
and just leave the group altogether.
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:So I'd rather have somebody donate once
every three months and stay with my
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:group than somebody that, that would
leave the group because they get tired
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:of seeing you posting every single day
asking for donations for the bunnies.
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:Even though we need it still kind
of hurts you in the long run.
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:Dixie: Now with the bunnies,
you said that it is challenging
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:to adopt out adult bunnies.
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:I know, with cats, it's very
hard to adopt out a black cat.
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:Are there certain bunnies that get
adopted faster than other bunnies?
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:James: It is.
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:And black bunnies are the same as
black any black animal is the same.
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:People just don't like the
little black animals from these
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:because they're not fancy.
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:But usually the little fluffy bunnies
with a lot of fur, they get adopted.
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:The lop eared bunnies.
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:People just love the
little lop eared bunnies.
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:They're the most expensive
bunny you can get.
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:They have more issues than any bunny
out there because they were bred
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:to look cute, not to be healthy.
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:So they was bred to have a
little short smashed in face, and
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:they were bred to have the ears
to hang over their ear canal.
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:So first of all, the smashed face
causes teeth problems and they
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:have issues with dental issues.
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:They have abscesses in their teeth.
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:Then the ears hang over the ear
canal, which keeps it moist all
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:the time, which causes infections.
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:Almost any bunny that you hear that has an
ear infection is going to be a, 90 percent
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:is going to be a lop eared bunny because
the ear can't Get air because the lop is
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:covering the ear canal So but the lops
the little lion head bunnies with all the
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:fur around the little hair little line
So basically like dogs the cute bunnies
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:get adopted The other one's just a little
plain white ones with the black spots and
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:the black bunnies They just kind of just
tend to sit here and they and those solid
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:white bunnies with the red eyes People
do not like those bunnies and those are
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:absolutely the sweetest bunnies you can
ever come across but for some reason with
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:those red eyes people just I guess the
they've come across something somewhere
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:that they thought the red eyes were The
devil or whatever the case may be but
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:that's farther from the truth They're just
some of the sweetest bunnies you can ever
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:come across but they won't adopt them.
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:They sit right here with them little
Ruby colored eyes and just wait
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:for somebody to come and get them,
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:Dixie: yeah it's sad that they have
so many of them that are overlooked
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:that would be such great pets.
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:James: And it is, I mean, a bunny's a
bunny and people should just get the
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:one that, that kind of comes up to
them, not looking for a specific one.
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:And I don't fault people when
they want to get something
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:to look for a specific bunny.
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:We've got all kinds of bunnies here.
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:And, but with that being said, it's.
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:They're gonna come in and get the
cute ones first and that's, just the
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:way it is with any animal, and if
the cute ones are available, they're
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:gonna go first, while the other plain
little bunnies are just gonna sit
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:there, just like your plain dogs at
the shelter and they just sit here,
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:and, but we don't euthanize anything.
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:We're we're no kill rescue.
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:If it comes into the rescue,
it'll stay with me before,
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:anything will happen to it.
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:If it don't get adopted, it's mine.
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:It stays with us.
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:And we hope to get them adopted,
but of course it's not going to
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:happen with everybody we rescued.
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:And we're not just going to pass a
bunny by on the streets because it's
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:just a plain bunny and it's sick and
needs help to go down the road and wait
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:for a I'm going to rescue and save.
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:Everybody that I see out there that
needs it, no matter what it looks like.
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:If it stays with me, so be it.
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:That's what the rescue for it.
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:We don't pick and choose.
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:We're there to help the bunnies out
there and I'm all help everyone I can.
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:Philip: Well, I know when we
adopt kittens, we try to tell
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:people to adopt them in pairs.
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:So would that be the same
thing for a bunny or can a solo
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:bunny survive or to get lonely?
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:James: Yep, people have solo bunnies,
but they're social animals and bunnies
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:live in a warren they live in a group.
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:Usually a female is like the is
over the warren over the group.
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:So they like to be in pairs.
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:So we try to tell people that You
know having one bunny or having
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:two bunnies is There's nothing any
different other than going to the
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:vet you use one litter pan one water
bowl one feed bowl The same space and
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:they just and they get along better.
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:They're less destructive.
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:They're not as bored as
they are by themselves.
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:So we preach trying to get
them to bond to get a pair.
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:And and they just do better in pairs.
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:They groom each other.
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:They're just like cats.
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:Of course they, have
their digestive system.
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:They have to continuously.
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:Use the bathroom because when they
groom, they just like a cat and they
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:groom, but a cat gets a hairball.
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:He can throw up a hairball
bunnies can't throw up.
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:So anything that goes in the
front has to come out the back.
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:So that's the digestive track is
a major issue with the bunnies.
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:. They lay together just like a couple.
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:If one passes away, the other one grieves
just like doves and you almost have to
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:go get another bunny within a few days.
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:Because sometimes the second bunny
will pass away just from sadness.
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:And so But yes, having a pair is
a lot better than having singles.
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:Some people can't afford
to have two, I get it.
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:And we adopt out singles, but we, while
they're here, we do, try to tell them
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:that it's going to be better with a pair.
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:They chew less, they're less bored.
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:They have a companion to run around with.
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:And overall, just like you said
with the kittens, it's just better.
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:They just have a companion that,
that they can hang out with.
569
:It's not a human, don't have to
rely on a human for the affection.
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:They have their own kind to
do it when the humans are.
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:Off at work or wherever.
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:Dixie: One thing that I'm always
seeing, especially with cats, is people
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:want to rehome their cats because
they're not home during the day.
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:They're worried about
their cats being lonely.
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:And for a cat, it's not the same as a dog.
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:I mean, a dog needs to have somebody home.
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:They need that companionship all day,
but cats are usually fine by themselves.
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:So what about bunnies?
579
:Do bunnies require you to be home a lot
of the time, or are they just happy to
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:see you after you get home from work?
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:James: They are.
582
:So I have one inside.
583
:It's by herself.
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:We hadn't found somebody that we can
put with her because she's kind of mean.
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:So, when I come in, she'll run up beside
me, just like the little dog does.
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:So, They do But having a pair
keep some company while you are
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:at work they're not like a dog.
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:Like you said a dog is needs somebody
there The bunnies are like the
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:cats, they sleep during the day.
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:They're more active at dusk and dawn So
during the day, they're mostly sleeping
591
:when you're at work So if you have a
pair on they just you know They're just
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:laying there and keeping each other
company and sleeping mostly during the
593
:day So they don't need somebody there
all day with them You know and we tell
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:people a lot of times to just have a
big pen have a big area But when you go
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:to work Lock them up have a little area
where you can lock them up so they don't
596
:Jump out or go chew on some cords or do
something destructive while you're gone.
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:Dixie: I do have a question for, people
that would be new time rabbit owners.
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:What should they know first going into
it, and are there, any particular
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:signs of illness or anything
that they should look out for?
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:James: Well, the first thing
they should do is go on the
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:internet and educate themselves,
if they're going to get a bunny.
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:So bunnies are quite expensive
that they have issues at the vet.
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:So that's one thing.
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:They're quite expensive
to be spayed or neutered.
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:So going to a rescue saves you a lot
of money getting a bunny that's already
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:been vet checked and spayed and neutered.
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:They can't have a lot of things it's not
like bugs bunny, carrots, Can be deadly
608
:to bunnies carrots are nothing but sugar
and bunnies can't process sugar very well
609
:So carrots are a treat, just a piece of
carrot, every you know a couple times a
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:week but 80 percent hay 20 pellets and
Some greens, you know throughout the day
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:And they'll be good but As far as illness
bunnies hide it really well new bunny
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:owners kind of have a hard time knowing
what's going on So we tell people Have a
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:have some treats have some oxbow have some
good treats that you can order get online
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:And give them a treat every morning.
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:If you have food bunnies
are going to come to you.
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:So Every morning, you know you do a treat
if the bunny don't come to you and it's in
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:a corner all Like a little loaf of bread
all you know, just sitting there and not
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:moving something's wrong with the bunny so
they hide their illnesses and until people
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:kind of have one And see how it acts.
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:It's hard to tell even for us sometimes.
621
:We don't know when the
bunnies are ill or not.
622
:It's, they hide it really good.
623
:But but for new owners, just get it from a
rescue that's already spayed or neutered.
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:Don't go to a breeder where you know
that the bunny's gonna have issues.
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:You know from being raised or interbred
or just Already in feces in its own
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:urine and it's going to pass away on
you, you know just look There's a lot of
627
:stuff out there with on the internet now
that they can educate themselves with
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:that or they can you know come to us.
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:We help people we tell them even if they
don't get one from us We can educate
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:them what they need to do and no matter
where they get it from I don't care
631
:where They rescue the bunny from or adopt
it from as long as they adopt a bunny.
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:They don't have to come for
me but yeah, but other than
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:that, I mean, they're delicate.
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:They can't be manhandled They're not
really a small child's pet the child
635
:needs to be older 12 14, you know Where
they can be trustworthy with the animal
636
:when the parents are gone And but
other than that, I mean they do good.
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:They don't like to be picked up You know
because they're prey they don't like to
638
:be off the ground So you kind of need
to get on the ground and get at their
639
:level to get them to trust you more but
they have to be picked up, of course
640
:for different things But they don't
like to be picked up and held like a
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:lot of people think they do Especially
as they get older the babies don't mind
642
:it as much but as they get older and
at four months They're a teenager and
643
:they kind of start the hormones kicking
in and they just don't like it And
644
:they may nibble or scratch your claw
because they don't want to be picked
645
:up anymore But they're a good pet.
646
:They live a long time.
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:A lot of people have them quite a while
and it don't take a lot to keep them.
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:If you know what to give them or
what not to give them, if you just
649
:give them cilantro and green leaf
lettuce, hay, and some good quality
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:pellets, that's all you really need.
651
:You don't need to get
more extreme than that.
652
:And they'll live a long time
and and can be a good pet.
653
:They just like a little dog.
654
:They play with toys.
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:They come running to you, and of course we
got a hundred bunnies, so we, we love the
656
:ones we got and we love doing what we do.
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:Dixie: Yeah, I can imagine
if you have that many bunnies
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:it's wonderful work you do too.
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:Cause like I said, it's one
of those overlooked animals.
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:You don't hear a lot about bunny rescues.
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:James: No.
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:And they're the third most dumped
animal behind cats and dogs.
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:And I would think they may be catching
up, and it, and people don't realize
664
:that either, but people just see 'em and
they think that they see a bunny, that
665
:it's wild, but, wild bunnies are brown.
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:Any other colored bunnies?
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:are domesticated.
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:There is no other color wild bunny other
than the brown with the white cotton tail.
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:Any other color, any with fluffy
hair, they're domesticated bunnies
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:and they don't belong outside.
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:So if whoever's listening to this,
if you see a bunny that's just
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:not brown, it's domesticated.
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:And there's even bunnies that look
just like the one we've got three
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:or four here that look just like the
wild bunnies that's domesticated.
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:So sometimes you can't even
tell if a bunny comes up to you.
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:It's domesticated.
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:You will never have a wild cottontail
or one of the cane cutter or swamp
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:bunnies in Louisiana come up to you.
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:You can't get within, 20 foot
and they're shoot like a jet.
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:So if a bunny ever walks up
to you and goes to your feet,
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:comes to you, it's domesticated.
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:So alert somebody or, catch it or bring
it home or take it to the shelter.
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:But people just don't know
that, they think it's a bunny
684
:can survive in the wild.
685
:And they dump it and off they go.
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:Dixie: Before we end this
episode, is there anything else
687
:that you would like to add?
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:James: Well, we have a lot of bunnies.
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:We do transport.
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:We have people that would transport.
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:So if they, see bunnies we post,
they're more than welcome to contact us.
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:But we have a lot of bunnies.
693
:We definitely need people to
come out and see the bunnies.
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:And we definitely need to adopt some.
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:We can't.
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:take more in until we adopt some out.
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:So right now we're fully maxed.
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:So we, we need as many people we can to
adopt a bunny and people who have bunnies,
699
:if they need, help with their bunny,
something's wrong with it, we can help.
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:Sherry bonds bunnies.
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:So if people has the one bunny and
they want to get another one, Sherry
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:will bond the bunnies for them.
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:She does nail clippings and we don't
do grooming, but you know, we check the
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:bunnies over and we do nail clippings,
we bond the bunnies and even if it's
705
:not our bunnies and they already have
a pair of bunnies and they fight.
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:And they can't get them to bond.
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:We do that too.
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:But but adoption is the
biggest thing right now for us.
709
:And we just, hope that
it will get out there.
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:And then I'm not sure where the podcast,
how far it goes out or whatever, but,
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:like I said, whoever hears it and,
if they want to contact us and look
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:into adopt, we're more than welcome
to talk to them and and help them.
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:Dixie: And I'll include the link
too, to your Facebook group.
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:James: Okay.
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:Yeah, that'll be fine.
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:And like I said I should
have we do have pet finder.
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:It's under the same name.
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:So we do have bunnies posted there.
719
:We have a lady in Huntsville, Miss Ruth
was the Huntsville Friends of Rabbits.
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:She kind of runs the pet finder
page and it kind of stays updated.
721
:We have more bunnies here at the
rescue than we do on the pet finder
722
:page because they're always coming in.
723
:Of course so, If you want to list that
at the bottom because pet finder most
724
:people are pretty good with pet finder
They just punch in the rescue name and
725
:it pops right up with all the bunnies But
if you want to mention that too or post
726
:that Lola and Friends Bunny Rescue on pet
finder That's a pretty simple find also
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:Dixie: Yeah, I can certainly do that.
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:I'll go grab that link and
include that as well for you.
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:James: And but yeah, if people, especially
in Louisiana if they have bunnies and they
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:need to have the bunny checked, the Avian
Exotic Animal Hospital of Louisiana is
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:probably the best exotic anywhere along
the southern states that we know of.
732
:We rescue and mobile rescue along
the coast of Mississippi, Louisiana.
733
:We go north to Hattiesburg, sometimes
to Jackson and, but we just tend
734
:to stay along the coast here.
735
:There's enough bunnies
down here for us to rescue.
736
:Then we don't need to go anywhere else.
737
:It would make a pretty good show.
738
:We've actually talked with some of
the producers my daughter worked with
739
:a crew in New Orleans when they'd run
the EMS show and We thought it would
740
:be a pretty good show to have and but
we didn't have nowhere It was after we
741
:had caught most of the bunnies at the
parks and know where to take the bunnies
742
:That we would catch so it was okay.
743
:Well We need to think about this
more than just, filming, catching
744
:the bunnies, because it was,
it would have been easy to do.
745
:Maybe one day in the future,
something like that can happen.
746
:But there just needs to be more
awareness out there with the bunnies.
747
:There's a lot of rescues that rescue
bunnies, but still people are not.
748
:They don't know about the bunnies.
749
:They don't know that they make good
house pets and especially a lot of your
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:rural areas think that bunnies just
belong in the backyard in a cage and
751
:They're raised for meat and that's way
beyond what they're they can be they
752
:can be a really good companion animal.
753
:They can be a Therapy animal we
have a friend that has two bunnies.
754
:That's therapy animals She
takes them to the senior citizen
755
:homes and they're big hit.
756
:So they're more than just a just a
little animal, you stick in a cage in
757
:the backyard and and raise for meat.
758
:They can be a whole lot more than that.
759
:And that's what we try to
educate people that, that they
760
:can be a really good house pet.
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:Dixie: Well, thank you for taking
the time to speak with us today.
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:I really enjoyed our conversation.
763
:It was some things that I didn't know.
764
:And hopefully we can get you to reach
a few more people and maybe get you
765
:some more homes for your bunnies too.
766
:James: And that'll be good.
767
:And one last thing, within Jefferson
Parish there, and if people in that
768
:area has bunnies that they catch or
see, they can, they have a program,
769
:the Fix A Rabbit program that's in
Jefferson Parish, the SPCA promotes that.
770
:So that's a good thing that they have
over there to try to cut back and cut
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:down on the population of the bunnies.
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:So if anybody's listening
in that area that.
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:That has a bunny or catches one in that
area that just remember the SPCA the
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:Jefferson SPCA has a fix a rabbit program
with a spay and neuter your pet and of
775
:course like any dog or cat or any other
animal You know spay and neuter is the
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:biggest issue out there So, you know
if you have a bunny you get one, please
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:spay and neuter, females catch uterine
cancer 85 over the age of two catch it.
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:So, spay and neuter is a big deal.
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:Have it done
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:Dixie: Yep spay and
neuter is a very big deal.
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:Thank you so much.
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:I'm so glad we got to speak with you
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:James: Yes, ma'am.
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:And that's was the bunnies
are just a thumping.
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:I don't know if that's what you hear
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:They can hear your voices cuz I
got you here on speakerphone and
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:they're just thumping And they
want to warn all the other ones.
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:We always
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:Philip: have a cat run
around the background.
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:So I'm sure people are hearing cats.
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:. So it's, we
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:Dixie: just had some meowing, so I don't
know if you could hear it, but we're
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:like, Oh no, so it happens animal rescue.
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:James: Well, the cat, I mean, the bunnies,
that might've been what they heard.
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:I didn't hear it.
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:I might've been talking, but then
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:Dixie: Maybe so that's funny.
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:That's funny.
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:James: But well, thank you so much.
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:I'll be glad to, any other time, you need
to, I'll be glad to come back anytime.
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:I appreciate y'all reaching out and
hopefully it, helps some people and
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:educate some people and it does some good.
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:Dixie: Definitely.
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:We would love to have you back.
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:Thanks.
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:James: Thanks.
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:Yes, ma'am.
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:Dixie: All right.
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:Bye.
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:Dixie: And that's all the time
we have for today's episode.
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:If you are in animal rescue, or if
you know someone that has a story that
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:should be told, please contact us.
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:We would love to have
you or them on the show
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:.
Thanks for listening, and please join us next week as we continue to
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:explore the world of animal rescue.