From Foster to Forever Home with Lisa

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Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the

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people and rescues making a

difference in the lives of animals.

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Hi everyone.

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We are back with Lisa Krohn

of New Orleans Bulldog Rescue.

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To finish up our conversation, she is

very well versed in animal rescue and

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does a bit of everything from TNR to being

the vice president of the New Orleans

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Bulldog Rescue and fostering kittens.

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Welcome back, Lisa.

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Do you still do TNR actively

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Lisa: unfortunately, my job does not allow

me to, I work during the evening hours,

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so there is no setting traps at dusk.

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And then when I get off of work, of course

the first thing to be re my responsibility

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is to come home to let all my animals out.

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I just can't, I don't have the

time at night to set the traps.

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I started with this job right

in .: 2020

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And Rachel and Sue and I trapped

almost 500 cats that year together.

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But after that, I haven't

been actively trapping.

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Unfortunately, I just don't have the time.

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I'm at work when I need to

be setting traps in the best

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time to set traps is at dusk.

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I don't have a problem with

checking traps at night and

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checking traps early in the morning.

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I can't set them so it just.

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Took me out of the ball game.

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But if anybody needs traps.

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I have two that I've loaned out

occasionally here and there.

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I have a neighbor across the

street that feeds an eye feed.

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We get a straggler here and there.

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That was the last cat that I trapped,

was a new guy across the street.

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A big white and black

guy . And got him neutered.

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And besides that, I try to help

out where I can, but unfortunately

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I just don't have the time to

actively trap 'cause of my job.

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But I gotta have a job.

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Dixie: I understand.

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Lisa: Unfortunately that's one of

the one thing that I did enjoy doing.

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It's so much fun to stake out traps

and, sneak around at night, your

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flashlights creepy, but, Rachel

would never go out, but man I'll be

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out there at 1:00 AM checking traps,

walking around with my flashlights.

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She's you're not afraid.

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I'm like, no, I'm not afraid.

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I'm like, we've warned these people

that I'm coming, that someone's

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gonna be checking the traps.

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And, and it's always a thrill when you

get a cat that you're going for, and

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the one thing I could do without is the,

part of putting the traps in my car.

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That's not always fun.

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Yeah.

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Because they make us stink.

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Dixie: Yeah.

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Lisa: A lot.

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And it can be

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messy, so

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Dixie: yeah.

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Male cat urine is no fun.

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Lisa: And they're in a trap and

they're upset and the one nasty part

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about doing TNR we learned we put

down multiple layers of plastic.

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Like I'd cut up those big, 40 gallon

contractor bags, those big plastic

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bags that were for yard work.

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And , I'd have my dog, seat cover on,

and then we put the plastic down and

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sometimes we put blankets underneath that.

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You just protected your, car.

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And I thankfully did not do the majority

of the running around with multiple cats.

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'cause I have a smaller car.

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Sue and Rachel had larger cars, so

they were taking most of the animals.

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But I, pick up a cat in a trap, go check

a different location, pick up a cat

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in a trap, go to Sue's house, fill out

the paperwork, leave them on her front

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porch, she'd wake up in the morning.

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There's new cats in the trap because,

'cause we were tag teaming it,

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we'd set all the traps together.

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I'd check late and Sue would do the early.

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So it worked out great.

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We fixed a ton of cats in our our

community, but it just never ends.

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We have a climate here that is,

suitable for animals to live and breed

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24.

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7 365 kitten season never

ends, unfortunately.

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Yeah, I know you know all about that,

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Dixie: unfortunately.

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Yes.

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. Lisa: Years and years ago I

fostered kittens here and there

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for Joan with Spay Mart and once

Rachel started with the Jefferson

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S-P-C-A-I, fostered kittens with her.

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But I've had kittens

plenty of times for Joan.

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And I'm always the one that reaches

out 'cause I have adult cats

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and I've always done a rescue.

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So I feel like they need that experience

with another cat coming into their house.

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They're not necessarily staying, but

it's like good for them to have that

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experience, let's help raise another

generation, and they get to be the big

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cats of the house and, show the little

kittens what the deal is and play with

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the babies and, try to sneak there.

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You'll meet expensive, wet food when

mommy's not watching out of the bathroom.

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They're good for that one too.

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Yes, I'm talking about you, Willow.

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Dixie: Do you have male cats that

take care of your kittens or female

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cats that take care of your kittens?

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Lisa: It's the male cats that

take care of the kittens.

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Dixie: Me too.

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Lisa: Willow doesn't wanna

have anything to do with them.

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Baby D will swat at them.

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Simon is like, hello, let me groom you.

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Dixie: It's weird.

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It's really weird because I have two

males that absolutely adore kittens.

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They wanna go in, they wanna

go see the kittens, they'll

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go lick 'em, they clean 'em.

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Lisa: Yep.

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Dixie: If

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I need a babysitter, I'm,

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Lisa: that's what Simon does

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Dixie: y'all go babysit?

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And Yes.

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It's just, so weird because you

would think it would be the females

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and, my females absolutely hate 'em.

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They're like, get these kids out here.

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Lisa: They're like, oh no,

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you are not pointing that

work off on me, lady.

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That's exactly what

they're probably thinking.

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Oh, no, Uhuh, my job was done.

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So funny.

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Yeah.

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And for the longest time, I

always enjoyed, having male cats.

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My female cats weren't always the

sweetest and they were more reserved.

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And, I've gone through a bunch

of semi feral cats and that

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we're fostering and decided to

keep, because I'm just committed.

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And, it's completely different from

the friendly crew that I have now.

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I have strangers come in

and my Siamese is Hey.

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What's up?

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And she will nudge you and

paw at you until you pet her.

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And she's like front and center,

in the living room saying hello.

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A lot of my cats were

not that personality.

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And I actually pulled Willow's litter

from J Paws when they were like, 0.46

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pounds or something, and foster them

through the Jefferson SPCA with Rachel.

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And with the intent of always adopting

the little, blue Point Siamese.

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She'll be my fourth Siamese.

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I'm partial to them, but then,

two years before I adopted

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Willow, I also adopted baby D.

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His real name is Dylan.

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And he and his sister Kate

came into the Jefferson SPCA.

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It was serious eye issues.

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Neither one of them had eyelids.

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It's called agnesis.

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They're just born without them.

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And Kate unfortunately passed away having

some eye surgery done at 18 months old.

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And Dee's he gets his eye drops four

times a day and I clean his eyes and

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if we get a little stray hair growing,

it looks like it's gonna poke his eye.

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I just pluck it off just the vet would do.

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And then, I also noticed that

he was having some teeth issues.

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He's a lanky guy, and I right

away knew we had stomatitis.

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So now we've had all of his teeth removed.

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That was, that's been over a year now.

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He just has his little front

teeth and he is doing great.

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He's still a lanky guy with, and

he looks a little funny without his

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eyelids, but he is the sweetest thing.

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He, sleeps in bed with me every

single night and will snuggle

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up right next to my head.

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Even.

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None of my cats really care about the dog.

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Even Simon, who was trapped by Trap

Dat Cat who lived outside, sleeps in

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bed with the 14-year-old pit bull.

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She's a great cat dog.

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She loves the cats.

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Not so much a good dog with the

other dogs, but she loves the cats.

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Dixie: That's funny.

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Lisa: And I definitely trust her with

these kittens, but I wouldn't put

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her in a room with my other dogs.

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And I think that just goes with the years

of experience that I just know and trust

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this dog is people are like, wait, you

trust your pit bull with your eight week

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old kittens and not your 5-year-old dog.

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I absolutely do.

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I've done this a long time and I know

that she's not gonna hurt them, and

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she's not gonna do anything to them.

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She's just gonna walk around

she daintily walks to make sure

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it's not gonna step on anyone.

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And she stops when they get puffed

and she doesn't, move forward.

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She's very good with them.

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I never taught her those things.

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I'm assuming at.

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Some point she's just picked them up

because I've had her most of her life.

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She's been with me since 2013, so

she's just one of those difficult

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dogs that never found a good home.

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Like she's reactive on a leash.

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She's the dog that you bring into the vet

that you have to stand off to the side

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that has every sticker on her chart, just

to warn you, because I can't predict it.

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So sometimes she's great when we go

into the vet and sometimes it sounds

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like I'm riding a bucking bronco who's

screaming in the other side of the clinic.

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You just never know.

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It's always an adventure with her.

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Wouldn't trade any of it.

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Dixie: You have a lot going on.

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How do you manage the emotional and

physical demands of doing rescue work and

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what keeps you going on like tough days?.

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Lisa: If I'm having a tough day,

what keeps me going is knowing that

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tomorrow's a different day and I can

approach whatever issue I had today in

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a different way tomorrow because if I

didn't learn today, maybe tomorrow when

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I change something, I'll learn or I'll

figure out what the best solution is.

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But thankfully, I haven't been

in a position where I had a

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super difficult dog lately.

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But I've had dogs where like I left

the house and someone touched the

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front door and I'd come home to

escape dogs and feces everywhere.

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And so it's just doing rescue.

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I've learned to run the gauntlet

as I call it, of emotions

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much faster than other people.

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I've lost plenty of dogs doing rescue.

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I've had to euthanize dogs for behavior.

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It's never an easy decision.

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But in the long run, I know that if

I can't keep that dog, myself, and

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personally give it the life that

it deserves, then and I can't adopt

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it out, then what are my options?

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And the kindest thing to do is,

unfortunately you have to euthanize.

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And that is the worst

decision ever to have to make.

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But unfortunately it is necessary.

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And doing rescue, you just

you deal with the emotions.

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I get upset, I cry.

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I try not to regret.

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That's the biggest one I feel like that

I have had to learn to deal with, is

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to know that I've done everything in

my power and I'm at my wits end with

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whatever's happening, whether it's,

a dog in my house and I'm having,

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aggression issues with, or it's Petey

who I cried 45 minutes all the way home

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across the lake after dropping him off.

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But the dynamic in my house and the

way my house smells is different

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because Petey is not here with

the constant cleanup and the mess.

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And I love Petey dearly, now that

he is not here, it's almost a relief

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to know that he's where he belongs.

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And my house was never

where he intended to be.

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Sometimes it's sad, sometimes it's

happy, and you want to take all the

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happy, like I will, high five myself.

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When I do adoptions, I'm

like, all right, good job.

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And people ask me, how do

you move on so quickly?

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I'm like I never intended

to keep that dog.

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I intended to take that dog into my house.

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I intended to give it rules and boundaries

and structure and find it a home.

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That person who adopts that dog

gets all that information too.

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I've brought this dog home, I've

given it structure with the kennel.

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I'm telling you, these are the

rules at my house to, to help

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transition the dog to your house.

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I suggest this is what you do.

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You can never go too slow.

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You can go too fast.

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When you're integrating a new

dog or a new animal into your

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house, you can never go too slow.

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So we always tell people that we

understand you wanna bring your new

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dog home , and you wanna snuggle.

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The new dog, it takes at least

two to eight weeks to settle into

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a new home and a new routine.

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If you start giving a dog like what

We adopt out these powerful breeds and

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these breeds that will take a mile.

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When you give them an inch,

you have to have structure.

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And we use the kennels for that.

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And I tell people I feed in the

kennel, the kennel controls everything.

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It controls outside time.

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It controls affection, it controls

feeding it, and my dogs get

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treats every time they get in.

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They get something, whether it's a

high value treat or it's a couple of

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little rom crunchies, that they love.

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I'll throw four or five in there.

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But I do, I.

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Bigger treats like the Whimsies shoes,

and I buy the red barn bargain bags,

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and I take the hollowed out like marrow

bones and I stuff them with pumpkin or

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yogurt or dog food, and then I freeze 'em.

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So it gives them, an extra 30 or 40

minutes of work and a nice treat as well.

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It's about keeping everybody

happy so that I'm happy as well.

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And when I've got a difficult dog,

that's when it's okay, how can I

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outsmart them, keep them in their

kennel, what can I do to take the

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edge off to get them to settle?

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We, I'm not opposed to giving

my dogs drugs to help them learn

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to react and to settle down.

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And we get dogs straight outta shelter.

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I don't know anything about 'em.

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I don't know whether they're friendly

with, cats most of the time the shelter

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knows that they're friendly with dogs.

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Sometimes they're not always

friendly with people or they react

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with men or they're shy or, and all

these things need to be overcome.

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And it's just about getting the dog,

making an assessment and figure out a

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plan to get this dog to, tip top shape

so it can go on and find another home.

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A home where it's gonna be able to, live

its best life, hang out on the couch,

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sleep in the bed eventually kind of thing.

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Dixie: It's true though because I find

one of the most challenging things about

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finding a pet a new home is actually

people wanting them to just go into

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their house and they don't take it slow

and they expect everything to work out.

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Lisa: Yeah.

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Dixie: There's a lot of truth to what

you said because it's not like that.

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And if you adopt an animal thinking

that's what you're gonna do most of

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the time it's not gonna work out.

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You need to take it slow for that animal.

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Lisa: Yeah.

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It take time to adjust.

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I run a very strict type ship here.

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My personal dogs are the only ones allowed

up on the bed and up on the couch because

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the dogs that I adopt out might not

necessarily be allowed on the furniture.

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And someone might be like, Ooh, I don't

wanna adopt that dog because he jumps

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on the furniture and I don't want that.

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And I don't want jumping on the

furniture to be the reason why

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this perfectly, good match dog for

your family doesn't get a home.

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'cause you don't want it on the couch.

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So you're in the house, you're in your

kennel, you eating in your kennel, I go

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out to the coffee shop every morning.

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Usually, I take Cobalt or

Susie with me, looks like I'm

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getting them out of the house.

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We have actually have an event at Port

Orleans that we're taking some of our

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dogs to and then , we'll be there just

selling merchandise and just hanging out.

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I think they're doing a big old

dog event, like a hot dog event.

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And then we'll be there for a little

bit, but we've just been taking a break.

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I haven't had any new dogs, so we haven't

been doing our monthly adoption events.

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Dixie: Do you have a website?

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Lisa: We do, it's

www.neworleansbulldogs.com.

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And we also have a Facebook page.

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I believe if you just search

Facebook for New Orleans

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Bulldog Rescue it will come up.

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And the Facebook page is usually the

most current on what we have in rescue.

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We make all of our posts and we

showcase our dogs on Facebook.

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And then I believe the Petfinder

is usually linked in each of

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the the showcases that we have.

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But all of our like surrender

forms and our adoption applications

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can be found on our website.

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They're just in the drop down

list when you click on it.

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We do feature dogs there, but it is not

always up to date with who is adoptable.

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'cause it's not interfaced

with the petfinder and , so

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they don't talk to each other.

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But yeah, you can reach us that way.

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And we, we usually do once

a month adoption events.

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If you are interested in adopting,

you must attend an event.

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Even if you've attended an event in the

past, we still recommend that you come

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out just because it gives you a chance

to see literally every adoptable dog that

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we have is required to come for that.

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It's just a one hour once a month.

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We have no set day or location.

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A lot of times it's on Sunday

'cause that's my only day off.

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And we, try to pay attention to

football games and all the things.

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And when it's summertime like

this, we're having them inside.

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Usually at a brewery.

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We've got good friends at Urban South

and they'll let us bring the dogs in.

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Most of our stuff happens after events.

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We have an event, and then that week

right afterwards is when, we vet

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check and start setting up one-on-one

meetings that we don't allow children

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under the age of 14 at our events

because some of our dogs don't like

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kids and kids can be unpredictable.

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So to make sure that my dogs and

your children are safe we ask that,

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they don't come to these events.

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People unfortunately still do bring

their children and we just ask them

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to keep their children, on the side.

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Or if they're looking at a specific

dog that I personally know will be

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good with children or have seen it, in

a setting where children are around,

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we'll let the children introduce

to the dog, but usually it's all.

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It's all set up

individually after the fact.

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Like you come out to the event, then

there's a one-on-one meeting either

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with all of your family or whatever

dog is currently in your home.

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And then there's another

meeting usually at your home to

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make sure the dogs get along.

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And then we move inside and do,

a drop off a home inspection.

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And I tell people, I'm like, I don't care

what your TV looks like, or I don't care,

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if your sofa's, brand new or old, shoot my

sofa, both corners are torn up from Simon.

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I just wanna make sure that,

your yard is secure and that

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you have space for a dog kennel.

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And that's pretty much, what I'm looking

for because people have been around

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and know how to work rescues and they

will lie about things like having

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an outside dog or where they live.

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Like I've had people tell me they live so

and and then I want to drop off the dog.

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They're like, oh.

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Oh, we just recently moved.

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I'm like, no, you didn't.

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You just recently lied is what happened.

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Dixie: I was recently catfished for a cat.

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This is no joke.

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Lisa: Oh my goodness.

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, It's funny, but it's not funny 'cause

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Dixie: it's it's not funny.

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Lisa: Don't you have something

better to do with your day?

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You know what I mean?

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It's come on.

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Dixie: Luckily we caught it.

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Lisa: Yeah,

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that's the worst one.

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I feel like I've I'm a volunteer.

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I work like 45 hours a week,

like I work six days a week.

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It's broken up over six days,

but I work six days a week.

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I don't keep a normal schedule.

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I go to work at 2:00 PM I'm usually home

in between nine and: 10:00

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Not the normal everyday schedule.

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But I enjoy it.

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And when people waste my time, I don't

like that I have very limited free time.

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If I don't have control,

it would be absolute chaos.

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And I go to work with chaos.

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I come home and it's a little

chaotic, but usually can manage it.

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Once I get more than three

rotations and yes, I rotate dogs

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'cause not everybody gets along.

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When I get more than three rotations,

it starts getting difficult.

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And right now I've got

a good three rotations

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but that's one of the great

things of doing dog rescues.

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I know my animals, I know what their

limits are and I keep them safe no matter

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what, whether it's in the yard, in the

house, at the vet, in public, yeah.

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It's just, I.

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That's the commitment that I've made.

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If I had children, it'd be the same thing.

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I just accidentally got into

dog rescue and the first dog

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I fostered was a bee hole.

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She dug a hole in my bedroom floor.

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I learned real quick that

the kennel is my best friend.

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So they're like, yeah, you

gotta keep her in the kennel.

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I'm like, kennel's.

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I learned the hard way when my, one

of my first dogs ate the windowsill

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and started eating the walls.

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We very quickly got a kennel, but

I was like, oh, she just got fixed?

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No, she dug a hole through the

carpet to the concrete while I was

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sleeping in the same room with her.

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Dixie: Wow.

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Lisa: So yeah, crate is my best friend.

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I learned real quick that Crate is a

extremely important tool, especially

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when I'm getting dogs straight out

of the animal shelter because I

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don't know what kind of dog this is

or what kind of experiences they've

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had in the house or with furniture.

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And I tell people that when they adopt

from me and I'm like, look, I suggest that

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you keep this dog on the same routine for

the next two weeks that I have him on.

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They eat in their kennels,

they sleep in their kennels.

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When I'm around and watching

them, that's when they're loose.

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I don't know if you leave him loose when

you run to the grocery store, if he's

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gonna take a poop on your couch or eat it.

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I wanna say that he's not gonna do

those naughty things, but I don't

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know, because when I leave, he's safely

and securely sleeping in his crate.

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And that's, people think, oh, it's a cage.

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No, it's their safe space.

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I, it's never a punishment.

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It's always a positive.

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They get something delicious.

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My dogs will run me over to get to

their kennels, and half the time I'm

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you're not even going in your kennel.

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This is time to, to hang out in the house.

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And they will still go in down the

hallway and act like they're gonna enter

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whatever bedroom their crates are in.

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And then when they realize I've

sat down, then they just come

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back in the living room and oh,

it's my time to be in the house.

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But, my dogs enjoy their crates

and they, I've got a bed in

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there and they get fed in there.

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All the most high quality

treats are given in there.

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And it's, just my experiences over the

years have just definitely, solidified

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that the crate is my best friend.

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Had dogs that, gave me a run for my money.

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And the kennel helped a lot to give

me more control and to learn that

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they can trust me because I control

everything with the kennel and my house

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is safe and my other animals are safe.

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And, most of the time when I'm

gone, they're asleep in their

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kennel and that's what any owner

wants their dog to be doing.

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But maybe sleep on the couch.

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Rhonda sometimes stays loose, but I

don't even let her loose now because

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of the storms, because I don't want

her to go in the bathroom and hide

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or, decide that she wants to actually

knock the kittens down or something.

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So

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her kennel is safe for

everyone, especially her.

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Dixie: Definitely nothing wrong

with kennel training them.

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It's a good thing to have in my opinion.

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: 00:21:45

Lisa: Yeah, it absolutely is.

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And my whole extra bedroom is just,

there's five, there's six dogs kennels

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in there, and if I need to, I can

put five more crates in that room.

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I have the capacity in one room

to finagle 11 dogs in there.

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For my own sanity I don't,

but I can if I need to.

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Dixie: What's the one message you

would like to leave our listeners

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with about animal rescue in general?

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Lisa: In general, I just wanna

say spay and neuter your animals.

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But with rescue, just be honest.

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If you wanna adopt a dog.

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Be honest.

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You wanna adopt a cat, be honest.

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Make sure you spay and

neuter your animals.

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Be responsible and committed.

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It's not a, oh, it's a cute little kitten.

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: 00:22:24

It's a, in 20 years when they're in

kidney failure and you need to take 'em

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: 00:22:28

to the vet, will you commit to do that?

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Will you be doing fluids

at home for your cat?

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Will you do the extra, expensive

food and the wet food and all the

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things that your animal needs?

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: 00:22:39

There's so many things I could say

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I just want people to be responsible.

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Just know that it's a commitment.

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It's not, it's a cute little puppy.

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It's a, when your life changes

in five years, make sure that

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there's a plan for your dog.

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Bulldog Rescue has a safe haven program.

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We've only had to use it a couple of

times, but it is for people like, in

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: 00:22:59

a domestic violence situation that

need to get out, but don't immediately

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have a place to go with their dog.

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We've had a couple come in and

we basically foster them until

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these people get on their feet

and can take their dogs back.

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And then still, occasionally I'll

still, Amazon Prime, a bag of food here

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: 00:23:16

and there If they need help, I would

rather go the extra mile to help you

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keep your dog than rehome your dog.

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Dixie: Absolutely.

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: 00:23:24

Lisa: Maybe that's

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what I should have said.

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Dixie: Absolutely.

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I absolutely agree with that.

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I would rather see people ask for

help than just rehome their animals.

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Lisa: Yeah.

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Or get in over their head and then have to

like, go bring their half dead dog to the

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shelter, in a last ditch effort for help.

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: 00:23:42

Whether the dog survives or not

is up to what's happening at the

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shelter at the present moment.

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If they can, get the vet care that the

animal needs or if it's just a lost cause.

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One of my neighbors, just the

other day told me that the neighbor

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across the street, a couple houses

down, one of their dogs died and

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they're like she'd been sick.

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: 00:23:59

I'm like what'd the vet say?

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And they're like they

didn't take her to the vet.

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: 00:24:02

I'm like, that's just insane.

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: 00:24:06

It's, my dog misses a meal.

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: 00:24:08

I'm like, something's wrong.

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: 00:24:09

You're going to the vet.

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Dixie: That's crazy.

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Lisa: They let their dog die.

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Like they didn't take her to the vet.

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: 00:24:16

I'm like, just flabbergasted.

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I have a whole credit

card for just my animals.

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If I can't afford what needs to be

done, I've got that security blanket

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there for a reason, accidents happen.

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: 00:24:28

Animals need proper care to,

to live a good, healthy life.

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And some of those things

are unpredictable.

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Believe me, I know anyone who owns an

animal should know that animals get sick.

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Just like people, you need

to buy pet insurance or you

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: 00:24:46

man up and you pay the vet.

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: 00:24:48

But if you're smart about it, you

get a puppy from, a, a reputable

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breeder or from a rescue, and then

you immediately get pet insurance.

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Most of mine unfortunately come in with

medical issues, so pet insurance was

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never a good idea for me because it would,

disqualify the preexisting condition,

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: 00:25:06

which is the condition that I would

be taking them to the vet for, right?

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: 00:25:10

Unfortunately it doesn't always

work in everybody's favor, but.

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We do what we gotta do no matter what.

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: 00:25:17

Yeah.

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I will eat ramen noodles so I can

buy somebody's meds or I will dog

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sit for free, or cat sit for free.

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: 00:25:24

Or anytime I have anything extra,

I'll always try to like, give a

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: 00:25:28

little bit of here and there to on

Give Nola Day and things like that to

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rescues that I don't even work with.

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: 00:25:34

I give my time to, bulldog rescue and I

give my time to the Jefferson SPCA and

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: 00:25:41

anybody else that asks me for help, if

there was with a rescue, that's what

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: 00:25:45

I contribute is,, my volunteer time.

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: 00:25:48

I don't always have the funds

to spare, but if I do, I will

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definitely, do what I need to do.

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: 00:25:52

I've been buying some of my own little

kitten supplies, 'cause I know, the

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: 00:25:56

Jefferson Feed has a ton of kittens.

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: 00:25:59

I know what that costs to run, so

I've been providing some stuff for

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my own kittens and some fosters

do that and some fosters don't.

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: 00:26:07

But a way that I can get back,

is to help with the kitten stuff.

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: 00:26:10

And, I buy my own dog

treats and my own dog food.

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: 00:26:13

So it's just, bulldog Rescue

paying for the dogs that are

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technically living in my home.

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: 00:26:18

Rent free huh Rhonda.

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: 00:26:22

But yeah, I don't know any other way

to live my life other than to helping

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with dogs and cats and, if I have the

time to do TNR or to help out where I

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: 00:26:30

can, I did the shelter neuter return

for years to try to get the proper

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: 00:26:37

numbers to get that best friend grant.

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: 00:26:39

And then we got that grant and

those girls were here for three

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: 00:26:41

years and then they're gone and

then we're still in the same boat.

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: 00:26:46

Dixie: Yeah, it'll get better one day.

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: 00:26:48

We just need to get more

people on board with the TNR

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: 00:26:52

Lisa: But

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yeah, when is one day, I've

been doing this for 20 years.

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: 00:26:56

Dixie: It's amazing the amount,

that's amount of work that you do

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: 00:26:59

though working with all these groups

and it's really admirable too.

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: 00:27:02

Lisa: Thank you

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: 00:27:04

Dixie: A lot of people, there's a lot of

ego involved in animal rescue sometimes.

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: 00:27:09

And, so you don't always see

people helping other groups

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: 00:27:13

because of that ego thing.

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: 00:27:15

And so it's very admirable

that you do as much as you do.

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Lisa: I

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try.

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: 00:27:21

The animals shouldn't matter what

rescue that they're with, just as

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: 00:27:25

long as I have my heart in the right

place, and that's where I'm at.

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: 00:27:29

I needed something to brighten My

day after Trouble was, unfortunately

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: 00:27:34

found deceased and I wanted kittens.

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: 00:27:37

So I went out and volunteered to foster,

and now I'm just laughing and giggling

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: 00:27:43

at my three little corn chip boys.

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: 00:27:45

Because they're definitely a hoot.

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: 00:27:47

They're, yeah they're the corn chip boys.

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: 00:27:49

They've got the Cheeto, the Dorito, and

the Frito, and I call 'em Frito Burrito

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: 00:27:53

and Cheeto Burrito and Dorito Burrito.

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: 00:27:56

They are a kick.

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: 00:27:58

I definitely enjoy having

kittens in the house.

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: 00:28:01

It's a lot of fun.

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: 00:28:02

You get to do all the cutesy little

things and then they find another home.

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: 00:28:05

My friends are like,

you're gonna keep one.

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: 00:28:07

I'm like, no, I'm not really

planning on keeping a kitten.

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: 00:28:09

Like I love Dorito, I really

like Cheeto and Frito and I'm

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: 00:28:12

not keeping three kittens.

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: 00:28:13

We're not keeping kittens.

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: 00:28:16

It's not always the easy decision

sometimes, especially when you

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: 00:28:18

put a lot of extra love and care.

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: 00:28:20

'cause someone gets sick like Dorito,

it just builds a different bond, and

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: 00:28:25

I have learned to, to know that, if

I build a special bond with these

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: 00:28:29

animals, that I, that just means

that I have to keep in touch a little

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: 00:28:32

more and it with whoever adopts 'em.

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: 00:28:35

And I still get, text messages and

we still get emails and things when

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: 00:28:39

our dogs unfortunately pass away.

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: 00:28:41

And, people donate things all the time.

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: 00:28:44

When they lose animals, and that's

unfortunately a sad part about it.

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: 00:28:48

But the good part is that a lot of

those people come back again and adopt

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: 00:28:51

again, so they're saving another life.

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: 00:28:54

And, it's just, rescue is becoming the

popular thing to do, but unfortunately

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: 00:29:01

we still just don't have enough foster

homes and enough money to save them all.

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: 00:29:05

I just shake my head.

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: 00:29:06

'cause my family's from the Midwest

and animals are treated differently.

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: 00:29:10

They're more like , they

serve a purpose down here.

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: 00:29:14

Their purpose is puppies and kittens

in, in the Midwest, it's like the

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: 00:29:18

dog is out there with the cattle.

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: 00:29:20

You don't see loose dogs or

loose cats and stuff like that.

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: 00:29:24

It's just a different mentality of the

type of animal and the climate that

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: 00:29:29

nothing stray could live in negative

70 degrees when they get a snowstorm.

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: 00:29:34

It's just not possible.

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: 00:29:35

You can't even be outside for

more than a couple minutes.

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: 00:29:37

It's the whole society down here

in the south, they just don't think

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: 00:29:41

that spay and neuter is important.

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: 00:29:42

For some reason, I don't get it.

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: 00:29:44

Or oh, my dog's not gonna get pregnant.

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: 00:29:46

My dog's not gonna get out.

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: 00:29:47

Yeah, all those things

happened, I don't know.

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: 00:29:50

It's frustrating to talk about it.

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: 00:29:52

Dixie: It is.

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: 00:29:53

Lisa: I don't see an end

in sight unfortunately.

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: 00:29:56

'cause I still run across people today.

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: 00:29:59

It's, we're in the 21st century

and they don't understand.

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: 00:30:02

And I don't understand how, at this point

in our life and in society, in the way

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: 00:30:07

that, you know, domesticated animals

are treated that people still have that

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: 00:30:11

mentality and it's gotta start from

somewhere we need to start educating

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: 00:30:16

like in the schools now or something.

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We used to do advocacy

programs, for events at schools.

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We've been to a couple of times,

with Bulldog Rescue, where they

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were having like an environment

event and they invited our dogs.

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And that was a lot of fun and it

was good to, . Teach the kids.

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I'm a nanny.

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All three of our kids, know all

the rules to ask to pet a dog.

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And, we don't, feed our dog

all these random things.

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We don't hit our dog.

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It's so frustrating.

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I could talk for hours about it,

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When you do rescue , as long as

I have, I've got some stories.

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Even Michael's man, you got some stories.

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I'm like, I know, because every dog has

a story and I can't remember people's

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names, but I can tell you the dog

and I can tell you the dog's story.

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Like the lady that I'm gonna meet

with for the new Frenchie is I

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know who she is, but I remember

her dogs before I remembered her.

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Dixie: It's funny.

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I'm the same way..

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I remember kittens that I

fostered like 10 years ago.

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Lisa: I know.

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It happens to us too sometimes when

they send emails, they're like, oh,

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here's an update so and and they're

like, did you foster this dog?

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I'm like, oh yeah, I fostered him.

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His name was Judge.

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Because people change

their names on stuff.

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It's you just have to remember.

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Occasionally it takes me a minute, but

most of the time, if I've had a dog

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for , any significant amount of time in

my home, I can immediately remember them.

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I might not remember who adopted them.

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The phone the contact that I added

will tell me the person's name with

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the foster dog's name next to it,

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Dixie: Uhhuh.

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Lisa: And that's usually how I remember

their people's names is 'cause I have

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it in there under the dog's name.

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So

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I can communicate.

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And I've met so many people and

then I've adopted dogs to judges

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and lawyers and real estate agents.

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And, I've had dogs that were down

here in the military that lived

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in Washington state and New York

City and all over the country.

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I even shipped merchandise

to Sweden one time.

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It was super exciting.

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. It was super cool.

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'cause I handle all the PayPal orders.

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If you order something from

PayPal, it gets shipped, by me.

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I have all the merchandise here.

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We, don't have a ton right now, but we

just do t-shirts, can coolers every year.

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We do a big ticket item,

but it's just a calendar.

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We're one of the only rescue

groups that does a yearly calendar.

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We have done 'em for years.

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I will never let Michael

stop doing the calendar.

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It's a great fundraiser.

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We always make our money back and

then some, and people love them.

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We put them out and all the

Jefferson feeds and they sell

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out and we have to bring more.

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A couple of our vet clinics sell 'em.

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You can always buy 'em online.

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It's a lot of fun.

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We get a photographer, we do pictures.

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Most of the calendar has alumni in it.

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And basically you donate your fee and

then your dog gets into the calendar, and

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then you get the professional pictures

from your professional photo shoot.

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And that's how we handle our calendar.

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It's a way for us to make

sure that we have enough money

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to print them, to be honest.

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And it's a good fundraiser for us and

people seem to enjoy it because every year

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we, usually get all 12 months to alumni

from the previous year or anyone actually.

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We send out a massive email for,

any year that you've adopted.

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If you would like to be in the

calendar, you can, like Max, his

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mom is a a retired judge, and he

is been in the calendar every year.

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And I asked Michael just recently,

I'm like, is that boy still around?

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He is he's still kicking.

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: 00:33:22

I'm like, all right.

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: 00:33:23

He's getting old.

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: 00:33:24

He's gotta be 14 by now.

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: 00:33:26

And he's not a little dog.

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: 00:33:28

He's some sort of like.

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: 00:33:29

Pit bull and bulldog mix.

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: 00:33:31

He's super cute, but

he's like a big blockhead

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Dixie: uhhuh.

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Lisa: He's got floppy ears and the docked

tail, but he is like a 80 or 90 pound dog.

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He's not little.

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He's solid.

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I fostered him and his mom's mom

actually just recently adopted a dog.

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: 00:33:49

And I pulled Trixie from the

L-A-S-P-C-A, she had no hair.

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: 00:33:53

You couldn't tell what color she was.

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: 00:33:55

She was like a four or

five month old puppy.

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She was just a baby.

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And she, didn't walk on a leash.

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She had mange so bad.

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She was disgusting.

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: 00:34:06

Those are one of those dogs,

you're like, I need a foster

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: 00:34:09

home like tomorrow for this dog.

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Because she not only needs a lot of

work, meaning bathing and, antibiotics

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and, but bulldogs can smell in

general, but when you've got a yeast

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: 00:34:20

infection all over your body from head

to tail and you have mange, imagine

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: 00:34:24

what that smells like in your house.

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: 00:34:28

It's not fun, but that's

something you commit to.

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: 00:34:32

I knew when I was getting her that

this was gonna be a lot of bathing.

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: 00:34:36

But I had a foster home who

doesn't have any other dogs.

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And then she ended up keeping

her and I was like, all right.

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: 00:34:43

It's always fun when our fosters

keep a dog and then still

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want to continue to foster.

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: 00:34:47

Of course, I gotta put that out

there because if you keep a dog and

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then you don't foster anymore, then

I'm like, oh, I lost a foster home.

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But if you if you keep a dog

and keep fostering more, yes.

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: 00:34:57

High fives, that's what I love.

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: 00:35:00

Dixie: Yeah, that is absolutely the best.

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Thank you for talking with me today.

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I enjoyed our conversation.

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Lisa: Absolutely.

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I did too.

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Dixie: I'll have you come back

on and we'll just do dog stories.

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: 00:35:10

Lisa: Awesome.

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Sounds like fun.

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Dixie: If you are enjoying our show,

please consider leaving us a donation.

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: 00:35:16

A hundred percent goes to our animals.

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And that's all the time we

have for today's episode.

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If you are in animal rescue, or if

you know someone that has a story that

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should be told, please contact us.

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We would love to have

you or them on the show

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. Thanks for listening, and please

join us next week as we continue to

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explore the world of animal rescue.