Episode 30
Sydney's Journey Into Animal Advocacy
Animal rescue advocate Sydney deVictoria Michel shares their journey that began with a "temporary foster" turning into a long-term commitment. This episode explores the difference in animal welfare between the North and South, highlighting the challenges of overcrowded shelters and cultural attitudes toward spaying and neutering. Sydney recounts experiences from working with local rescues and discusses the work of doing dog assessments and transporting animals. The conversation also provides advice for potential adopters, emphasizing the importance of keeping an open mind, understanding an animal's adjustment period, and seeking a trainer's help for behavioral issues.
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Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the
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:people and rescues making a
difference in the lives of animals.
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:Today's guest is Sydney deVictoria
Michel, an animal advocate Hi Sydney.
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:Welcome to the show.
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:Before we start, tell us how you
got started in animal rescue and
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:give us a brief bio on yourself.
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:Sydney: Whew.
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:It's a convoluted journey, I guess
you could say it started, I was living
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:in Washington state north of Seattle.
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:I started working for a dog bar out
there and through that kind of got more
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:exposure with different dog behaviors
and oh, big dogs make big sounds cool.
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:Started getting some training there.
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:Volunteered with the
Humane Society out there.
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:Fast forward, moved out or moved down
to New Orleans and literally within two
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:weeks of us being there, saw a Facebook
post for a dog needing a place to stay.
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:And we're like, great, we'll
just do a temporary foster.
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:We didn't know animal rescue and
animal welfare in the south and
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:how temporary is not a thing.
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:So we get this black female pit bull.
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:We're in with one of the rescues,
and by some miracle, we ended up
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:getting her adopted two, almost
two weeks later to the hour.
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:So she gets adopted and then we
were hooked, I think in the two
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:and a half years we were there.
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:We fostered dogs the entire way through,
with very short breaks in between.
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:So from fostering, I became
a foster coordinator.
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:Foster coordinator to a manager for one
of the facilities with a local rescue.
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:Then I started working with the
inner pups, so more on kind of
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:the low income household, keeping
pets in the home situations.
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:Started getting in with the shelters.
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:Learned how to do assessments.
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:Met different staff and different
directors with different rescues.
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:Got tied in with rescues
outside of the state.
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:Started doing some, transport
coordination, transporting
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:dogs out of state.
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:And then before we moved back up to
Minnesota I ended up working with
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:zeus's rescues for almost a year
for the last part of our time there.
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:Dixie: You said temporary
is not a thing in the south.
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:Can you explain that?
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:Sydney: From what I learned about
my time being there is just with
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:how many animals are in need.
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:Both on the street, in the
shelter, in the rescue.
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:We can go into why the reasons are
for why there are so many to truly
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:do just a temporary foster situation.
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:There aren't enough open homes
to be able to move a dog quickly
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:to really say yes, I can do.
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:Just this, these few days,
at least not the beginning.
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:There are rescues that
are really good at that.
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:But as a whole, when you're just jumping
in blind without any idea of what's
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:going on, if you don't have a good
network to fall back onto, like you,
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:once you take a dog in, that dog stays
with you until you bring it to the
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:shelter, rehome, whatever it's really
hard to truly do a full temporary.
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:I'm just here for a few days.
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:Dixie: Is it different
in other areas then?
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:Sydney: I don't have a lot to compare to,
honestly, because I didn't do rescue work.
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:I didn't foster until I was in the south.
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:Now that I'm up in Minnesota.
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:We've taken a break and a breather
from rescue and fostering.
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:Minnesota has laws and guidelines.
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:Like we have five animals at a
home and we technically should
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:have a multi pet household permit.
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:And to do that, then we also have
to get permission from the city
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:in order to pull another animal
in, even if we're just fostering.
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:. On that part, we have, we haven't been
able to get fully into rescue, but
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:also just from an outsider perspective,
I don't see a lot of stray animals.
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:I don't see desperate posts
looking for fosters, looking
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:for homes, looking for adopters.
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:It's just from looking outside in with
a rescue perspective coming from the
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:south it really is a night and day.
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:Area, night, day, place,
situation, mindset.
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:What have you.
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:Dixie: Do you think that's more from the
environment there, or do you think it has
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:to do with this permit that you're talking
about with having so many pets you have
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:to go apply for a permit to have more?
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:Sydney: I think the permit's
just a small part of it.
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:It's really just I'd call it
a symptom almost, of just what
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:the mindset is up on the south.
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:On one hand.
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:Environment on, on the very
real weather side of it.
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:Like we have winters up here and we know
how animals do in freezing, freezing cold.
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:So animals on the street don't quite
make it as well as they would otherwise.
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:But we also up in the north, spaying and
neutering is more of a common mindset.
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:You do have an animal control that
actually is gonna be more on top of it.
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:They're gonna, they will actually follow
up on animal abuse charges or reports.
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:And they just keep better tabs on
things they have, they seem to do
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:a better job really following up
with spay and neuter requirements.
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:So yeah, just on a grander
scale, they seem to be better at
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:helping to manage the population.
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:And down in the south, it's,
there's really not much regulation.
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:There's not much follow up.
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:The mindset is I'm gonna keep my dog's
gonna keep their balls because that's
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:their manhood, and my dog's gonna have
one litter because they should know love.
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:And there's not really
the understanding of okay.
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:Your dog and every other dog
around you is gonna do that.
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:And then where do the puppies go?
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:And down in the south, what we would
see is the puppies would just, they'd
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:go to the shelter, they'd go to
the river, they'd go to the field.
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:The lives are viewed pretty
different on a cultural level.
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:Dixie: Why do you think that is?
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:Since you've been in both places, what
do you think the difference is that in
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:Minnesota they actually value spay neuter.
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:They understand the importance of it.
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:But when we're here in the south,
like you said, we hear every single
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:excuse you could possibly hear.
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:Sydney: I don't know.
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:And maybe that's because I haven't.
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:Been able to step more into rescue
here, or maybe it's because I just
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:grew up in it and so it's harder for
me to get that outside perspective
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:because I grew up in Minneapolis and
I don't have a great answer for that.
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:Maybe it's education, maybe
it's just there are less animals
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:around, so it's more of a scarcity.
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:I could probably find people
to talk to and try and get some
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:better answers, but don't have
the answer off the top of my head.
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:Dixie: Yeah, I understand.
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:, I was just wondering because
you do see that here like a lot.
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:I was always raised with spay neuter,
so for me it's always been a thing
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:if I was gonna have a pet, they
were gonna be spayed or neutered.
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:But there's so many people here
and it doesn't seem to matter what
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:their education level is here too.
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:You could have college graduates that.
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:Don't value spay neuter either.
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:You could have people
with advanced degrees.
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:Anything that would help
spread that message here would
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:help us out tremendously.
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:Sydney: Yeah.
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:It's inneresting.
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:There were a few times I actually saw it.
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:You'd think it was a total opposing
viewpoint, but the reason that I saw
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:people argue against spay and neuter
was for bodily autonomy for the animals.
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:Their argument for not spaying
or neutering their dog or cat
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:was because the animals could not
physically agree to the surgery.
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:Which was the strangest
argument that I have ever seen.
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:And like something about you saying that
a higher education, anytime I saw that
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:argument it tended to be from people
from higher educational backgrounds.
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:And I'm like, I don't even
know how to argue with this.
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:You've taken this bodily autonomy
argument on some level that just
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:doesn't, it stopped making sense.
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:Dixie: And like I said, it
doesn't really seem to matter.
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:Where your economical status is.
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:It doesn't matter where
your educational status is.
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:I wish I could find out how to
reach more people with that.
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:Sydney: I do too.
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:I know, the inner pup, I don't
know if you've heard of them or
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:worked with them or spoken with
anybody with that organization.
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:They're really amazing organization that
looks at that, the long-term relationship
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:and the long range conversations.
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:So when I worked with them, I
would go door to homes and it was
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:literally like the neighborhoods
that most people would wanna go into.
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:And I would just go and I'd
see, okay, you've gotta beware
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:of dog sign, or there's a dog
hanging out tied up on the porch.
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:I'm gonna go talk to you.
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:And it would just be talking
about here are the services.
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:Have you, thought about getting
your dog spayed or neutered?
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:Why or why not?
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:And if they said no, and they
were adamant, it's alright, fine.
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:We're here.
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:Let us know how else we can help.
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:And because we would get them
tied in and I'm not there anymore.
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:But the organization would
get them help in other ways.
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:There were many times that they
were actually able to speak with
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:breeders and down the line, finally
get them to change their mind.
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:They go, you know what?
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:Yep, you're right.
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:I see this.
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:There are too many dogs here.
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:I'm ready to get my dog fixed.
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:I don't want to do this anymore.
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:So sometimes it is just a waiting game.
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:It's meeting people where they're at and
rather than trying to force something
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:down their throat, it's like, all right,
you're not there and me fighting you
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:on this isn't gonna change anything.
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:And I met some really
amazing people that way.
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:Surprisingly.
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:Dixie: We did have Genie on the show.
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:It was a few months ago.
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:So she did talk about all the work that
she does with the heartworm prevention.
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:With you though, being on the go door
to door end tell us more about that.
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:Sydney: So yeah, I was the
community outreach person.
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:So the inner pup, like their big
thing that they're more known for
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:is their heartworm prevention,
their heartworm treatment clinics.
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:They have so much more beyond that.
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:They're really good at getting
a ton of grant money in.
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:And some of the programs they have,
one of them is a spay and neuter grant.
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:And so low income households and
low income can mean a lot of things.
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:It could just literally
mean, Hey, you know what?
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:I lost my job.
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:I'm going through a rough
time for a few months.
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:I could really use this help,
and they will assist you on that.
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:So you can go and get your dog spayed
or neutered and the copay is $20
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:i've got this dog.
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:They're really great, but I could really
use some help training on these behaviors.
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:They have training grants where
they'll connect you with, I know I've
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:met two of the trainers and there's
two others outside of the state,
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:but they'll connect you with one of
'em and they will pay, I wanna say
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:they pay at least 80% of the costs.
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:So if the total cost for all the
sessions is $300, the family, the
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:household only has to pay 20% of that.
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:So it's affordable training.
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:It's affordable spay and neuter.
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:They have vet assistant grants as well.
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:And then they have the
heartworm prevention grants.
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:They also do CAT clinics, Genie loves
talking about heartworm treatment,
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:heartworm prevention, all that.
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:She'll talk about any of it really.
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:But part of what I would do is I'd go
into the target neighborhoods and I
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:would just talk to people and say, do
you know that this organization exists?
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:Do you know what programs
they have available?
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:And usually we would pick the neighborhood
based on where the clinic was gonna be.
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:So when we'd have a clinic in Central
City, I would go canvas around Central
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:City and just try to get as many people.
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:To the clinic as I could.
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:So yeah, that I was like the face
to face with them for a while.
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:Dixie: You said you did fostering and
you worked as a manager at another group.
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:What are the other groups that you
worked with or volunteered with?
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:Sydney: So I've worked or volunteered
with Take Paws, with Arno,
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:with Zeuss, with trampled rose.
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:I've helped out, volunteered
with big easy Animal Rescue.
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:Trying to think.
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:There were a couple other small
rescues that we fostered one or two
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:dogs with that were out of town.
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:But then whether or not I've fostered
with them, I've at least had contact
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:with the directors of a couple of
other small rescues in the area.
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:And it was just originally my plan
was like, Hey, I'm gonna go in,
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:I'm gonna do assessments in the
shelter for dogs that are available.
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:Can I get, like when you tell me what you
have room for and I can work on getting
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:you the information you need for dogs.
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:And some of the rescues
were just too small.
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:It was hard to make it work.
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:But a few of the bigger ones we
did end up, I was able to go in,
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:do the assessments, get these
dogs tagged, and then get them to
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:the rescue and outta the shelter.
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:Dixie: Did you do the assessments
for like multiple groups at a
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:time or would you just strictly
work with one group at a time?
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:Sydney: I would do 'em for a lot.
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:I I would go in and do the
assessments and then share those
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:assessments with different rescues.
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:I actually learned how to do
this work From Jess at Arno.
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:I got to go shadow her a few times
and see her work with some of the,
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:originally I went to go see her
work with some of the tougher cases.
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:Some German shepherds and shapay
that were like a little sketchy.
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:So I got to learn a ton from her and
met another woman who is phenomenal at
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:networking with out-of-state rescues.
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:And then I actually started making some of
my own connections with, I had a rescue in
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:Idaho that I was getting dogs sent out to.
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:One in Illinois, one in Wisconsin.
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:So I just started building up my own
over the months that I was doing that.
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:Dixie: With the dog assessments, can
you explain how you go in and do that?
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:And for people that don't know what a
dog assessment is, what that is actually.
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:Sydney: Yeah, absolutely.
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:There's, there are actually like specific
assessments that are out there and some
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:people will do different for, or, they'll
do different format forms or formats.
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:Primarily what I would look at is
one, can a dog be handled safely?
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:So just looking at how a dog
would be handled at a vet.
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:Can I pull on the ears?
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:Can I tug on the tail?
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:Can I go ahead and put pressure
on the top, which would
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:generally be an assertive move.
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:Are they gonna get really tough?
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:Stiff and maybe get grumpy about it.
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:Can I hold their paws?
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:Are they gonna let me do the
handling that a vet would do?
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:Or even just that somebody
at a house would do.
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:The other is a resource
guarding and first with food.
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:So I'd put a bowl of food down.
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:I'd use what's called an sussa hand,
which they don't make, but I just would,
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:I got a Halloween prop hand, put it
on the, on a stick, and I would use
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:that so , I'd give the dog the food,
I'd start handling 'em with the hand.
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:Then I'd go eventually and start
putting the hand in the bowl and
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:it's to see are you going to, are
the dogs going to get defensive?
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:Are they going to growl or are they
gonna fight or even attack the hand?
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:And then do the same with the
toy and then also do a dog test.
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:So like, how is that dog when they're
meeting or inneracting with another dog?
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:And those are really the main things
that a rescue's gonna wanna know.
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:If I can find a dog where I'm going,
Hey, , they were good with every
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:single bit of handling that I did.
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:They had no issue with me
putting hand touching them or
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:putting my hand in the food bowl.
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:They were fantastic with a dog or
with three dogs that I tried and they
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:didn't have any issue with a toy That
is a gift to a rescue to say I found
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:this dog and they, I call them a
gem dog, like this dog is fantastic.
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:I would take it home if I
didn't have five of my own.
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:And then if there's other
behaviors, I always work to be
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:as honest as I possibly can.
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:If I see that there was an
issue that popped up in a, an
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:assessment, I will tell that rescue.
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:Sometimes I can say, Hey, yeah, there
is an issue with this other dog.
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:But it could have been because of X, Y, Z.
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:It could have been
because of leash tension.
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:It could have been because this
dog hasn't been neutered yet, or
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:it was male in a male or whatever.
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:And then I I give the rescue the
option to either ask me to get more
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:information to do another assessment
or, they can just say, Hey, right
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:now we don't have an opening to be
able to work on those behaviors.
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:Dixie: How long did you
do the assessments for?
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:Sydney: When did I start?
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:I wanna say it was like may of.
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:2024 and I would go in on and off
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:until about May of 2025
when we moved up north.
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:So about a year.
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:Dixie: And when you're assessing
the dogs, how long does the
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:process take for each dog?
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:Sydney: It's really not too long.
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:Some dogs, it can just
be five, 10 minutes.
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:Other dogs.
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:If like I, I would have every so often
I'd have the shelter say, Hey, you know
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:what, this one's being sketchy, or This
one staff are having a hard time handling.
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:And so I would make sure I'd give
more time to just try to figure
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:like either one, to give the
dog more time to get used to me.
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:Or two, if the dog seemed to be really
reactive to another dog, I would make sure
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:we would do a much longer introduction.
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:So it's pretty common for
German Shepherds to not be great
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:immediately meeting nose to nose.
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:And so what we would do is I'd say,
okay, bring a dog out that's pretty
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:good with other dogs that you've
tested before, and let's just walk
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:up and down this field together.
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:We're not gonna come close to each other.
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:We're not gonna let them make contact.
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:We're just gonna walk.
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:And they're gonna get used to each
other's presence and each other's smell.
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:And that would obviously add more time
where, if I had a dog that I can't flat
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:out right away and was already giving me
good signals or, weighed 10 pounds and
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:I'm not gonna be really concerned about
a ton of damage that that little dog
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:is gonna take less time than a bigger
dog that already has some concerns.
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:So it depends, five to
10 minutes to 30 to 40.
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:Dixie: After you do the assessment, if
you notice that there are some areas
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:that need to be worked on, do the
rescues take on that after, or do the
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:rescues just say, not pull the dog?
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:Sydney: It depends on the behavior,
it depends on the rescue and
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:it depends on the resources.
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:There have been some where I've been
able to say, Hey, here's what I saw, and.
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:They can say, you know what,
I'm used to this behavior.
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:This is pretty typical.
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:That's fine.
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:We've got a great foster for this dog.
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:We'll take him.
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:Others where it might be.
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:The one foster we have who would be
great with this kind of behavior isn't
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:available right now, so we can't, or
other behaviors where it's just this
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:is too risky for us to take on at all.
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:More often than not, I was
pretty fortunate to be able
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:to get a lot of dogs placed.
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:But it just really, all depends.
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:Dixie: I know you have a Facebook
group too called Chronicles of Chef.
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:So yeah, tell us about that group.
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:Sydney: Oh, so first I would have
to tell you about my boy chef.
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:I would start getting tagged in
posts on the lost pets groups.
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:And one of 'em was this
boy who I later named Chef.
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:He was a German Shepherd.
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:Somebody posted him.
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:They saw him.
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:He was off of Chef Menteur Highway.
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:He looked injured.
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:I got tagged on like a
Friday night at 10 o'clock.
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:I'm like, I'm not going
out there, not happening.
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:The next morning he was still there.
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:I had a friend who was with
a vet, and she reached out.
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:She goes, look, if you can get
this dog, we will board him.
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:We'll take care of him.
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:And I was like, all right, fine.
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:So I go out there somehow, I think
it took me like 15 minutes to
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:finally gain his trust, get a slip
lead on him, get him into my car.
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:But we were all pretty aware
early on that like he wasn't gonna
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:be an easy one to handle and.
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:We weren't able to get any rescue to
sponsor him because of his behaviors.
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:We could tell pretty quickly that
like he was going to be a bite risk.
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:He wasn't gonna be a dog we
could place into a home 'cause he
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:just wasn't trustworthy enough.
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:It was me and one other staff member
at the vet that could handle him.
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:And I would go out there multiple
times a week just to continue
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:working with him, gaining his trust.
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:We were trying to see if we could get
him in with a working dog program,
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:but there was just this part of him
that wasn't fully predictable and.
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:Series of unfortunate events.
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:Eventually we had to make the decision
to do a behavioral euthanasia.
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:And that was not an easy decision.
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:But he's just stuck
with me ever since then.
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:And so this group, originally I made
the group for people who had seen his
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:original posts wanted to follow along.
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:It was to fundraise for his vet care.
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:After we made the decision to help him
across the Rainbow Bridge, I turned
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:it into a group to help network or
to share the story of dogs that were
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:scared or were mostly at first dogs
that were scared in the shelter and
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:who given the chance, we're able to
blossom into just fantastic dogs.
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:And then it just went into, let's.
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:Network dogs that don't
have a rescue backing.
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:I haven't used it quite as
much, but it's still alive.
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:And yeah, it all started from chef.
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:It was a very good boy who just had
a really crappy hand dealt to him.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:I went through the group and I was looking
at some of your posts about all the other
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:dogs that you did help through there.
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of the earlier ones.
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family, I wanna say they were over in
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out to people and just say,
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connected to resources?
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you find a stray dog and.
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with local rescues, couldn't
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but they could only hold her outside.
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care, finally was able to place
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so it was just like this whole.
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a place for her out in her yard,
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her when it got too hot and take
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:This rescue that I made a random
connection with and she ended up.
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works with the VA and she goes
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veterans to their appointments.
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:There was another one a chow who she was
hiding under somebody's car in the east.
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the car with what's called a snappy
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stick, but it's close to that.
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her to the L-A-S-P-C-A.
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present well there, but they
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in Houston for Chow Chows, and they
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to them, that they would take her.
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was able to board chef found transports,
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adopted like two weeks later.
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like that where dogs that need
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:It's just what can we do or what
could I do with the connections I
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:Dixie: I enjoyed reading through
the post and you could see that you
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were able to get 'em on and get
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:So how is it that you made the
connections in Houston and Idaho that
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:Sydney: Idaho was Facebook.
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:I was on some random groups and
this one specific rescue in Idaho.
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say, Hey, if you're willing to take
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say, yes, we absolutely are.
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to just ask all the questions about
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:I would also talk any rescues in
the north, I would talk to them
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look, just because they're negative
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like, here's how we look at treatment.
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understanding of what heartworms
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like and what they needed to do.
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:With Houston, I had a friend who
knew somebody and so she gave me a
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contact for this, the Houston rescue.
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on Facebook and vetting from there.
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somebody who knows somebody and
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:Dixie: That's great.
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:You were able to get that all done though.
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:It's a really good group.
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:The stories in there,
they're just remarkable.
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:They're sad, but feel
good stories too yeah.
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:Sydney: That's pretty accurate.
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:Fortunately most of them were able to
be like, good, happy ending stories.
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:And I think in some of 'em I
probably shared like, yeah,
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shared Chip on there.
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:There were just a couple dogs that
they got into rescue, but by the
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had been so bad and it wasn't.
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found a spot in my heart and I
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:just wanted to share their story.
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:Dixie: I did see the story
about Chip on there too.
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:Sydney: He was a sweet little guy.
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:Dixie: Based on your experience, what
are some of the key things potential
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:adopters should consider before
bringing a rescue dog into their home?
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:Sydney: That's a very good question.
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is keep an open mind.
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a few different things.
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:I know we, would get adopters who would
come in and say, I want this kind of dog
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color, or I want a female over a male.
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:And what I would try to talk to them
about is okay, what characteristics
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is what do you want in a dog?
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:Obviously sometimes you have like
housing guidelines and you can't have a
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:dog over 25 pounds, so that limits it.
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:But it's, rather than looking at outside
characteristics, think about what
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:it is that you truly want in, you're
looking for in a dog, knowing that.
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:I should say cats too.
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:I know dogs better, so I'm
always gonna talk about dogs,
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:Understanding that there're gonna be a
lifelong commitment and that like people,
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:things change throughout their lives.
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:We would see a lot of people come in
for puppies 'cause they're cute and
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:then they go through their teenage phase
and they weren't prepared for that.
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:And so just understanding that
there is a lifespan and changes
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:happen along that lifespan.
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:The other one is giving their dogs
time, but also tools and guidelines.
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:So we would talk with adopters
a lot about the 3, 3, 3 rule.
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:And it's a guideline.
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:It's not a rule, but it's three
days for a dog to decompress.
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:And the reason it's three days, the
science behind that is in the first 72
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:hours of a dog going through a change,
their cortisol levels are really high.
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:So that can affect and
will affect their behavior.
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:And sometimes you can see it almost
like to the hour where 72 hours after
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and you'll go, what was that about?
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that's been three days.
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:It can make a dog either really
timid and really quiet, or it
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:It can change a lot of things.
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:So giving those animals.
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:A few days to adjust will give
you a better sense of what their
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:So that's the three days.
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:The three weeks is it takes 'em
three weeks to learn your routine.
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:So if you can keep a similar routine
through those three weeks, it's
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:gonna help them adjust quicker.
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:And then it's three months
for them to feel at home.
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:So it's just like understanding that
it's not gonna happen overnight.
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:It's not gonna happen in the
first week or the first month.
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:You've gotta give them time.
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:And if you're running into issues,
especially if you're going through
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:Early on we always wanted to work with
adopters or even fosters for that matter.
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:Like I'd rather hear from them sooner
to say, Hey, this is an issue that's
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:happening, and then I can help them like
nip it in the bud right away versus, Hey,
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:this has been going on for six months and
then there's all this backtracking to do.
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:And sometimes at that point
they've lost their patients and
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:they don't wanna wait it out.
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:So those were those were the big ones that
I would, I want people to think about.
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:Also looking at shelters.
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:But on the flip side to that
don't make a snap decision based
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:off of a euthanasia deadline.
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:Because if all you're looking at is I want
to save this dog's life, but you're not
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:looking at what that dog, who that dog is.
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:I've seen this a lot too, where
people will get a dog off of a
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:euthanasia list, not thinking about
any potential behaviors, realize
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:that there's potential behaviors.
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:Then they're panicking, trying to
rehome that dog and they don't wanna
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:bring it back because they don't
want the dog to get euthanized.
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:And that's a really hard place to be in.
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:And rescues, especially in
the south, aren't the backup.
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:They just can't be they're
already overbooked.
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:So yeah, I guess that kind of
goes back to think about what
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:it is you're looking for a dog.
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:Dixie: Onto that subject, what piece
of advice would you give them then,
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:if they do end up with this dog
that has these behavioral issues?
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:Sydney: Reach out to a trainer first.
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:Like definitely start with a trainer.
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:There are a whole lot of
different trainers out there.
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:If you're not sure where to start, you
can always reach, even if it's not a
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:rescue that you work with or you adopted
from, you can reach out to rescues
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:because oftentimes they have trainers
that they've worked with that they know,
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:that they've seen good results from, or
even that they're like definitely don't
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:touch that one with the 10 foot pole.
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:So find a trainer.
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:Talk to your vet for a trainer.
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:Talk to a rescue for a trainer.
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:Find somebody who has the ability
to teach you things that you
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:didn't know about dogs beforehand.
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:A lot of the times with behaviors that
I would see, it's stuff that can be
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:handled pretty easily in the home.
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:Especially if you jump on it sooner.
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:If you wait and you wait and that pattern
continues and it just gets entrenched.
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:It's not impossible to undo,
it just takes more work.
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:So that would be, find somebody
who knows what they're doing and
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:get help sooner rather than later.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:Great advice.
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:Now, before we end the call, for
listeners who wanna help but can't
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:necessarily adopt or foster, what are
some of the most effective ways that
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:they can get involved in animal advocacy?
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:Sydney: One way is go to a rescue
or even your shelter and walk dogs.
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:Getting them out for a walk for a day
trip outta the building, even just to
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:sit in a quiet room, can be a huge help.
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:Not one for the dog.
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:Like it's gonna help their
stress levels drop down.
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:There's even studies shown that
just an overnight or a weekend
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:trip or a day trip, just that time.
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:Really helps bring
their stress level down.
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:And by doing that, then you're going to
decrease their chance of getting sick.
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:The other thing you can do is you can
volunteer with other organizations that
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:maybe aren't directly rescue related.
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:So finding an organization like the inner
Pup, I think there's also the Street Dog
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:Coalition, like finding organizations
that you can do work with that are
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:gonna help animals stay in the home.
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:Because if animals stay in the
home, then we're not running into
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:the issue of overcrowded shelters
or dogs being dumped on the street
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:or just overburdened rescues.
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:Donating helps also, or just
talking to your friends about
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:here's what rescue looks like,
here's what fostering looks like.
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:There are also rescues that need help
with data entry or with organizing events,
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:with organizing adoption events with.
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:Organizing volunteers.
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:Like there are, there's a ton of
ways to help on the rescue front.
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:That don't mean bringing
an animal into your home.
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:Dixie: One important thing too
that they could easily do for
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:rescues that's very beneficial is
sharing social media posts too.
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:Oh,
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:Sydney: yes.
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:Dixie: Thank you so much Sydney, for
taking the time to speak with me.
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:I enjoyed our conversation.
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:Sydney: I'm glad we got to connect.
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:Dixie: Yeah, and you had some
great advice and some great
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:information to share, so thank you.
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:Sydney: Happy to help.
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:Yeah, if you ever have any
other questions, let me know.
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:Dixie: That's all the time that
we have for today's episode.
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