Episode 84
An Intuitive Look Inside a Cat’s Hidden World
This episode opens a rare window into what trauma feels like from the animal’s side. Dixie sits down with interspecies communicator Leiah Bowden, whose work blends intuitive perception, core shamanism, energy healing, and her signature soul‑journey portraits to reveal what animals carry beneath their behavior.
Together, they explore how rescue cats experience fear, abandonment, multidimensional refuge, and healing; how intuitive communication actually works; and what humans often misunderstand about the emotional lives of traumatized animals. Leiah shares vivid stories of her earliest communications, the role of “helper beings,” and how listening differently can transform the lives of cats who’ve survived hardship.
A deeply compassionate, eye‑opening conversation for rescuers, adopters, and anyone who’s ever wondered what their animals feel beyond what they show.
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Transcript
today we're talking about something most people never get to witness, what
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:trauma feels like from the animal's side.
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:As a cat rescue, we work with feral and
previously unwanted cats who carry real
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:livid trauma from life before rescue.
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:We see the behavior, we treat the
wounds, but we often don't get to
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:understand the inner landscape of
what those experiences leave behind.
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:Our guest today, Leiah Bowden, is an
animal and interspecies communicator
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:whose work blends core shamanism,
hands-on energy healing, and her signature
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:soul journey energy portraits, spoken
impressions, renderings, and sun light
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:language that reveal what an animal is
carrying, not just what they're showing.
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:She's read for rescue animals before,
and her work gives us a rare window
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:into the emotional and energetic
truth of cats who've survived
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:abandonment, injury, and fear.
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:Leia: Hello.
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:Dixie: Hello.
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:How are you, Leiah?
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:Leia: I'm very well.
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:And thank you so much for including
me in your wonderful work.
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:Dixie: Thank you.
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:I'm so very excited to hear about this
because as somebody who does energy
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:work herself, i'm familiar with the
animal communication 'cause I have
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:also dabbled in animal communication.
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:But- … the approach that
you take is so much different.
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:I'm very excited to learn
how- … this all works.
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:Leia: Wonderful.
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:Dixie: Before you started doing this
and before you became an interspecies
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:communicator, what did you do
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:Leia: I have to confess, I always
admired people who did what their heart
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:prompted th- them to do full time.
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:But I always had a job, a day
job, and my day job was as a
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:communications director for elder--
for organizations helping the elderly.
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:I was a director of communications for a
very good multi-level elderly facility.
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:And and in the meantime, I did my energy
paintings and my work on the side and
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:my animal communication on the side.
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:But I had begun delving into
intuitive work, oh, in:
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:came upon me, and then gradually
I just opened to it more and more.
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:And when I retired in…
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:when did I retire?
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:2012 or something like that.
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:I then just jumped in full time.
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:But I had been sensitive
to multidimensionality and
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:energies m- mostly all my life.
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:And how involved were you
with animals prior to this?
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:I had animals.
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:I always had a dog and a cat,
and I loved horses occasionally.
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:When I had a chance, I rode.
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:But I didn't engage with them in ways
that in, in ways that included speech.
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:That is the perception of their thoughts
and their feelings as I began when I
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:started doing animal communication.
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:I would love to tell you how I started
that because I think it is, it's
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:full of heart and it really speaks to
how when we open up to our intuition
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:our real life blossoms as well.
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:Okay?
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:Yes.
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:So- I would absolutely love to hear that.
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:So what happened was my only child,
my son, went to college, and he
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:was only an hour and a half away.
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:But I found myself doing what
I had heard about other mothers
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:doing when their little birds flew.
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:I went into his bedroom and
I sat on his bed and I cried.
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:And all of a sudden, I knew
that what I needed was horses.
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:And so I called a friend of mine
who I knew owned some horses, and I
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:called him up and I told him, and he
said, "Okay, you can come feed at 7:30
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:in the morning and 7:30 at night."
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:And so I started doing that, and that
led to working at some other barns.
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:And in one of them, I
found a book on tape.
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:This was, gosh, in 1993.
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:So we didn't have Audible
or anything like that.
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:We had books on tape.
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:And I took the book on tape home.
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:It was called How to
Communicate with Animals.
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:Unfortunately, I don't
remember the author.
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:I wish I could 'cause I'd love to give
her, I know it was a woman, credit.
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:So I took it h- I listened to it, and
when I went back to the stable the
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:next day I, as usual, I pulled out
the two horses that I loved working
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:with most were Allie and Springer.
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:They were both pregnant.
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:Allie had eight foals.
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:Springer's pregnancy was her first.
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:And I started with Springer,
and I put her in the cross ties.
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:And as usual, as I was currying
her, I said, "Oh, Springer, your
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:baby is growing so beautifully.
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:This is wonderful."
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:And I heard a voice in my head
as real as if another human being
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:were in my head talking to me.
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:And the voice said, just like
this, "I don't want this baby."
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:And it was shocking because it
wasn't something that felt other.
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:It wasn't something that felt
distant or unrelated to me.
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:Imagine sitting with a friend who
says that to you, who's pregnant.
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:Y- you don't just say, "Oh, really?
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:Okay, please turn your head."
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:So I said, "Oh my God, w- why?"
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:She said Allie told me it's not good."
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:Okay.
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:So I finished brushing her, led her back,
brought Allie into the cross ties, and
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:I said, "Allie, I hear that you told
Springer that having babies isn't good.
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:Why is that?"
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:And she said, again, clear as day,
I heard it, a voice in my head.
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:She said, "Because they leave you."
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:These were broodmares.
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:Their job was to give birth,
and then the foals were sold.
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:It was heartbreaking.
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:And I told the owner of the stable
this, and she was mortified.
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:I don't know what she did.
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:M- my association with her was very
short-lived, and not at all because of
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:any disapproval on my part, or anything.
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:It's just that I then moved on to
another stable But it was shocking to
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:hear this tragedy unfolding in my head.
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:And interesting because several years
later, as I began writing about this,
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:I realized I went to these horses
because my little boy had left me, only
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:for college an hour and a half away.
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:But my grief was what drew me to them
in the first place, and there they were,
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:reflecting exactly what I was feeling.
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:So that was my first foray into
opening consciously into the hearts
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:and minds of non-human animals.
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:And because it was so stunning and
heartrending, th- it informed me
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:that this was not fooling around.
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:This was not dealing with a
species that was any less worth
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:full consideration and dignity and
respect than another human being.
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:And that was my beginning
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:Dixie: Wow, that's beautiful.
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:It's amazing how it happens like
that too because- I had a similar
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:experience with that after I took an
animal communication class, and so I
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:definitely understand what you mean
about that clear voice that you hear.
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:Leia: Oh yes.
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:Dixie: That's right … I know a lot
of people are not open to that at all.
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:But, I definitely am a believer.
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:I have experienced it myself, and it's
just- Yeah … when you allow yourself
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:to be open like that, and I think
unconsciously a lot of people talk to
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:animals and get messages back from them
without realizing it, because- Yes … all
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:animal lovers talk to your animal.
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:You have a- Of course … full-fledged
conversation with your animal, and
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:you, like- … will reply back to them
like you're having a conversation.
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:And- … you might not hear anything,
but it's like subconsciously you
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:know what they're communicating.
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:You know what they want.
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:Leia: That's right.
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:That's right, you do.
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:And I know that I've read that some
animal communicators receive images
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:and feelings, and I know too as an
intuitive practitioner that sometimes…
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:I know when I lead guided
visualizations, I've learned that
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:some people are not visually oriented.
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:And so when I say, "Imagine
a beautiful forest," it…
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:sometimes it doesn't mean a thing.
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:However, if I say, "Allow yourself
to feel comfortable completely
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:and just feel it in your body.
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:Imagine it might come through a
sound, or it might come through a
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:memory, or the feeling of complete
relaxation might all of a sudden
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:bring to mind a song that you love."
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:Because people all perceive differently,
just as people learn differently.
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:And so in order to encourage other people
to open themselves completely to the
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:world, to engage in this magnificence of
creation, it's very helpful to help people
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:accept that however they perceive is it.
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:You don't have to see or hear
voices in your head, although the
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:voices in my head are my most direct
way of learning and perceiving.
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:Yeah, I get a lot of downloads.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:I know for me personally . like I
said I've heard the voices clearly.
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:I also will occasionally get a
picture that pops up in my head.
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:Particularly If I'm doing a
Reiki session, I will get the
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:images popping up in my head.
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:Leia: Yes, that's right.
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:And sometimes when I'm working on an
animal, it has happened several times,
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:that there's something going on with
the animal physically, and I look, I
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:call it scanning the animal's body.
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:I look, I scan, and sometimes I'll
see a grid over the animal, and I know
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:that this is a multidimensional grid.
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:It's a display of energy that
sometimes looks like a basket,
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:a, a loosely woven basket.
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:Sometimes it just looks like several
brightly colored beams extending up
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:from the animal or down to the animal.
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:Sometimes I'm not sure.
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:Is it going up or is
it coming down and in?
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:And that's an interesting thing too.
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:And then when that happens It-- because
I do this at my computer, which is a
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:whole other interesting way of working.
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:As I'm sitting at my computer with
my document open and into which I'm
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:typing the the information from the
animal I'm typing the discussion
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:the story as it's unfolding.
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:I open up a graphic program, and
I draw the image that I'm seeing.
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:Sometimes I'll download an
image from the web of an animal.
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:If the animal-- if the photo of
the album-- of the animal that I've
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:been given isn't clear enough, and I
really wanna show where this distress
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:is happening in the animal, I'll
download just a graphic of an animal.
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:And then using the graphic program
on my computer, I'll draw this
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:is the way the energy looked.
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:This was the color, and it traveled
from the tail over the spine and then
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:up through the ears and then a spiral
up from the ears," however it looked.
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:And then I send that along with
the report to the animal's person,
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:and I do the same thing for songs.
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:Sometimes when I'm working on an
animal, there will be a melody that
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:I hear, and sometimes it's not just
that I hear it, but I feel it in my
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:throat like it, it's saying, sing me."
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:It needs to be expressed.
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:And so I turn on my recording app on my
phone, and I sing the song that I hear.
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:And in fact, once I sent a song to a
person whose dog was so upset i-in the
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:car that not even Trazodone helped.
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:The dog would just scream for all
the time that it was in the car.
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:And they told me after they received
the song that they played the song
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:for the dog as she got into the car,
and she was quiet for the whole trip.
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:Which was amazing to me.
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:Isn't it wonderful when we learn that
the work that we do is effective?
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:Wow.
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:That's really great.
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:So yeah, because I work alone at
my computer looking at a photograph
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:of the animal, I have access to the
technology that allows me to show
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:people exactly what I'm seeing.
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:I do sometimes do sessions in person
because there are some times when
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:people really want that immediacy.
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:And so I do that, but I find that
when I do the sessions alone at
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:my computer typing, and I type
very fast, and I include the tone
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:of voice and what I'm seeing.
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:Does the animal stop and look
down and look at me quizzically?
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:I write all of that in.
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:So that n- normally what my
clients get is basically a story.
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:Looks like a conversation with
whatever additional images
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:and/or songs have come through.
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:So that was a long answer
to a simple question.
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:Dixie: I know that I'm gonna have
a lot of listeners out there who
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:have never heard about this before.
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:… I understand what you're talking about
that the looking at the photo and
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:everything, but can you explain how
you're doing this without actually
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:having the animal physically in
front of you and just using a photo?
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:Leia: Su- sure.
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:The basis of this work is intuitive, and
this is why, for instance, energy work
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:such as Reiki can be done long distance.
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:Because, in fact, there is
nothing separating us from
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:any other creation, period.
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:Except what does separate us is our
mind that tells us I'm here, and
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:that's there, and we are separate."
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:And of course, that is true physically.
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:I cannot touch something that's farther
away than what my arm can reach.
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:But intuitive work, and
animal communication is
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:intuitive, telepathic work.
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:It can also, of course, be hands-on.
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:Some people who, especially people who
are kinetic, who learn and perceive most
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:directly and most vividly by a hands-on
technique need that animal right there.
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:But I work intuitively.
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:My strongest perception is what I feel
and see and hear in my, and I'll use this
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:word, which is a loaded word, imagination.
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:We tell children after they've
had a bad dream, "Oh, honey,
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:it's just your imagination."
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:And that's our way of
saying, "It's not real.
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:It can't follow you.
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:It's not here with you.
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:You put it away."
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:And thank God for that because we need
to be assured that we're not at the
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:risk of anything that might pop into
our head, that physical reality is more
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:important than non-physical reality,
and that's kind of the rule of this
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:planet, and maybe other planets too.
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:Anyway I, I have learned that what's in
my imagination, that field of perception
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:in which I can go anywhere and admit
anything that I want- is a treasure trove.
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:And so although the animal may be
in Indonesia and I'm sitting here in
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:Northern California, or the animal
is in Ohio or Juneau, Alaska, or
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:wherever, when I look at the photograph
of the animal, and by the way, some
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:people don't even need a photograph.
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:Sometimes it's possible to do it just
knowing that the animal is in trouble,
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:and you know the animal's name.
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:When I look at a photograph, I look into
the eyes and I say hello to the animal.
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:I'll just pause there.
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:When you go to someone's
house, you don't just barge in.
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:You knock on the door.
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:And so I sit there with my mental
presence in the field of perception
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:so the animal can s- can feel it.
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:And when the animal notices
me, the animal says, "Oh, hi.
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:Why are you here?"
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:Or the animal may say, "Oh,
I've been waiting for you."
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:Or sometimes the animal
doesn't say anything.
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:I just perceive that, let's say, the dog
is pacing back and forth worried, or the
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:dog is sitting down and feeling depleted.
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:I just begin perceiving.
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:It-- because intuition works completely
separate from physical reality.
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:Think of how you feel when you think
of someone you love, and a feeling
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:of if it's a really wonderful love,
it, it-- you feel exalted, you
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:feel expansive, you feel wonderful.
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:And the person isn't sitting
there in the chair next to you.
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:You're not holding that person's hand.
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:You're just thinking of them.
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:The response that we have when
we think of something is an
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:example of how intuition works.
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:We don't call it intuition.
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:We call it, "Oh, when I think
of someone because I love them."
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:It's the same thing, and it is a hard
sell to somebody for whom physical
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:reality is really the only thing
that matters, and I respect that.
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:I have th- people who I love
for whom physical reality is
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:the only sphere of reality.
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:But, and here's how I learned
that for me, physical reality is
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:not the only important sphere.
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:I was driving down the road many
years ago, and I was feeling very
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:depressed, and I couldn't imagine
a way out of my depression.
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:I couldn't imagine it.
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:Now, nothing in my life was terrible,
but it was all my own feeling, and I…
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:at that moment, I realized if a feeling
is so strong that you can't think of a way
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:to feel differently, that feeling is real.
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:You're not making it up.
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:And you have to go with that, and
you have to find a way to deal with
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:that feeling because it's real.
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:That's reality.
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:When you have a dream just as you're
waking up and in the dream you're crying,
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:and you find that you're waking up
sobbing there was nothing physical going
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:on while you were dreaming, but it was
real because it made a difference to you.
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:You noticed it.
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:There was an emotional connection.
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:And so that's how I talk to people
about how intuition or our feelings
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:or our thoughts are a form of reality
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:Dixie: Yeah I totally can understand
everything that you're saying, and I
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:think that was a very good explanation
for people who might not understand it.
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:I would like to focus a little bit,
too, on the work that you have done with
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:rescue cats that have experienced trauma.
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:Leia: Yes.
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:Cats are cats are a very
interesting species because
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:they are so multidimensional.
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:I find that cats who have experienced
trauma have found refuge in…
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:And this is a logical, this is
a logical thread now because
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:of what I just talked about.
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:They find refuge in the, what I call
their home dimension, in the place
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:where their bodies just are not.
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:They find companionship and a sense of
peace and escape in the dimension of,
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:we might call it their dreams or the
other dimension in which they hang out.
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:There was a cat once who couldn't
make her way in the room she lived in
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:because although there were pathways
that she could walk around, th- the,
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:the multidimensionality in her mind,
the home dimension was present as well,
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:and there were furniture in the room.
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:There was furniture like big desks
that she couldn't get through
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:or around that blocked her from
getting into that other dimension.
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:So the trauma that I've experienced
from cats, from, rescued cats, has
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:been that they they f- maybe will spend
a lot of time not being responsive
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:or not being available to their
person because they're spending this
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:other time in their home dimension.
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:Dixie: When you're dealing with
a cat that has experienced this
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:trauma, I guess how is it different
for them compared to a human?
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:'Cause that's gonna be the easiest
way for people to understand
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:Leia: The cats have this escape route, and
it's real for them, and they go into it
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:But they also respond to
repeated expressions of love
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:that respect their boundaries.
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:And they they need their distance.
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:They need to be able to not be
touched if their prior association
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:with touch was traumatic.
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:And finding out what they need.
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:F- for instance, some cats will want a
soft object, or some cats will-- Some
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:cats will want their human to relax.
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:It is sometimes traumatic for a cat when
the human is always busy, always, for
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:instance, on the computer or on the phone.
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:So a cat with special needs really
needs to be asked, what do you need?"
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:Or and for humans, that can be very
frustrating because we wanna pick
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:up our kittens and cuddle with them.
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:That's why we-- You know, for some,
a lot of people, in fact, pr- dare
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:I say most people, they want a cat
because they want that cuddliness.
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:They want the cat on their lap.
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:We want the comfort for ourselves.
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:But if we are taking in a rescue cat,
one who has been traumatized, we need
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:to realize that we are the safe haven,
and our own desire for connection with
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:that cat needs to take second place
to simply allowing the cat to be in
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:a place where it is physically safe.
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:I don't know if I've answered your
question completely because, of
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:course, when humans are in distress,
w- we reach out to other humans.
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:But we know h- we know people who just
would prefer to sit and not talk, and we
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:think that's strange behavior, most of us.
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:We think that something's wrong.
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:And yeah, maybe something is wrong, but
we need to allow that person their space
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:as well rather than saying, "Cheer up.
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:You've got nothing to be depressed about.
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:You're fine now."
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:Just as you can't say that to a person,
you also can't say that to a cat.
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:And also as an animal communicator, one
thing that I've learned is that there
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:are helper beings available to that cat.
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:And when in an animal communication
session, I connect with that helper being.
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:If the cat can't express what she
needs to me, the helper being can.
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:The helper being will explain to me what's
going on with the cat energetically and
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:will say this cat needs such and such."
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:And then the helper being, in fact,
can flow its own energy into the
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:cat and help in that way as well
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:Yeah, that definitely
answers the question.
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:And I did like what you said too about the
whole thing with people wanting a snuggly
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:cat, but a cat isn't always snuggly.
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:I understand that.
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:I've had cats my whole life.
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:That is totally how cats are.
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:The cat is gonna come to you when
the cat is ready to come to you.
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:Yeah.
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:But being , a cat rescuer and adopting
out cats, that is one of the hardest
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:things to get an adopter to understand.
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:Yeah.
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:Dixie: And, specifically with a kitten,
because it's like I always tell people, a
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:kitten might be super sweet and cuddly and
snuggly when they're a baby, but when they
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:grow up- they're still finding their way.
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:They might not be like that anymore,
and that's a hard thing to get people to
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:understand who have never had cats before.
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:Leia: That's right.
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:And so the answer that some people
come to is, "Oh, I'll get another cat."
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:You know what happens when you bring
another cat into the household.
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:It might work, but I would al- always
recommend to people, if you're considering
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:getting another animal, either if
you're not intuitive yourself, you don't
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:have a strong feeling of what your cat
wants and doesn't want, find an animal
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:communicator who can tune in to your
cat and say, "We're considering getting
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:another con- another cat in the house.
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:How do you feel about that,
and what will be the rules?"
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:Because that first cat
will make the rules.
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:And and that, that always is helpful.
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:And if you know which other cat you're
considering, then it's good to introduce
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:the two cats multi-dimensionally first
and find out, like maybe the new cat
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:that you're getting thinks that he
or she is going to rule the roost.
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proactively before the new cat comes in.
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another direction, but because so
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you'll keep on getting more cats until
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:Dixie: I do wanna ask
you another question.
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:Leia: Sure
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:… Dixie: a helper being.
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:And- … so is that would that be
equivalent to like, a spirit guide
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:? Leia: In my experience of animal
communication, the helper beings
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kinds that I've experienced.
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:With a cat- I don't experience
a cat that I've known coming
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what I call an oversoul cat.
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to refer to this, this other cat
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:If I'm dealing with a cat whose needs are
not physical, they are emotional, and I'm
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from the cat exactly what she needs,
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:all of a sudden I can either call on
Cat or I see, aha, Cat enters the scene.
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to me as an Abyssinian cat.
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:I met an Abyssinian once, and I
was just struck by how gorgeous
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that's happening in my head is a function
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of everyone who does intuitive work.
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beautiful cat coming into the scene.
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with me, Cat takes over.
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:Cat looks at me and speaks to me
much as a teacher would speak to
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:I respect that cat.
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figure, and so I obey what Cat says.
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:Cat may say, "This session needs
to end for right now because
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:Little One," or whatever the
cat's name is, "needs to rest."
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:And I say, "Thank you very much,"
and then I come back later.
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:Or Cat will say "Allow, allow a moment of
light to appear," and the light appears.
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:Whatever Cat says, I pay attention.
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:And so it is like a guardian
angel, but it's not an angel.
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:It is an oversoul.
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:It is a being whose presence
includes and protects the lives
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:It is a protector being, and it is
completely trustworthy and beautiful.
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the protector being who comes in
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my last dog who passed, my Rosie.
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:And she comes in, and she's
actually a shamanic healing partner.
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:She comes in, and she does the healing.
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:Cat sometimes actually also does the
healing that's needed by moving energy
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into the body, the etheric, the energy
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:body of the cat that I'm working with
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:Dixie: How can you take this information
that you're getting to help the cat?
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:Leia: The cat is helped
by that energy exchange.
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:It happens right then and there.
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:And then, of course, as I'm writing about
this, if I'm doing it in my normal way,
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typing all of this out, if I'm writing
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:I tell the cat's person, "This is
what's happening, and I'm seeing
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:now that the cat's esophagus is now
clear," or, "I'm seeing now that
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"I'm seeing that the-- I'm feeling
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:the feeling of itchiness is going."
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:And then I might get information
that says, "The cat might need
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:some sort of salve," or, "Have
you taken the cat to the vet?"
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either instructions from cat or from
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:the, their own little cat about what
is needed to continue this improvement.
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:So do you have any specific
examples that you can share with us?
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:The examples are just what I've
given, that there is, for instance
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:a feeling of itching in one of
the cats that I was helping.
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"There is a hot itching.
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little critters moving in me."
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it was not an, an infestation.
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:My sense was that it was bacteria.
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:And so I wrote this to the person,
and they took the, the animal
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some bacterial infection that was
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in any way, and they hadn't taken
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cat wants blue food or cool food.
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or cool water or something
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:that doesn't excite the body.
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:And sometimes the, the cat will
tell me, I want live food."
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:The cats that-- This is very frequent,
that a cat will say because it wants to
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:hunt, "I want a recently dead being."
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:And sometimes then you can get,
food that's expensive that's
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:Dixie: That's very interesting.
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worked with, what have they taught
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you wish every human understood
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:Leia: Thank you for asking that.
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:What I've learned from the animals is
that we exist in service to other beings.
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:People are here, and we are all thinking
that we're here to achieve something.
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we are here to experience the
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that is the great prize.
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:That no matter what we may feel we have
achieved in our lifetime or what goal we
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happened yet, the process of getting there
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process should always include
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:taking each step in harmony with
what is going on in our lives.
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is so chaotic or so destructive in any
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that as you might, then we need to
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so that we can experience harmony.
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there is so much going on that
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:There is so much that is not in harmony.
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people to turn off the TV.
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:You can find out what's going on in
the world by looking at headlines.
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like to be informed.
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facts without inciting fear.
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:Our animals will act out.
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to say, "You're not on the right path.
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being of harmony and grace, and you
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:are a being of harmony and grace."
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:That's what I've learned from the animals.
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:Dixie: We learn a lot from our animals.
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:The energy exchange between the the
family and their pets is definitely there.
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:And I think sometimes it is important
to just kinda calm down and listen.
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:Leia: Absolutely.
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:We need more silence.
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:We don't have enough silence.
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:Dixie: Thank you so much for
having this conversation with me.
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:It's been very enlightening,
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:Before we go, how can people find you?
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:Leia: I am at lightspeak.com.
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:L-I-G-H-T-S-P-E-A-K.com.
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Me button right there.
