Willpower & Freedom Rides: Honoring a Legacy with Vicki Johnson-Cain

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Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the

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people and rescues making a

difference in the lives of animals.

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Welcome back to the show everybody.

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I am your host, Dixie, and today

we're gonna be talking about the

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literal miles people go to save lives.

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Our guest is Vicki Johnson-Cain,

a foster coordinator and the

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force behind willpower transport.

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Vicki founded this mission in memory of

her son William, and today she's sharing

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how that legacy of willpower is getting

dogs outta shelters and into loving homes.

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Vicki, it's an honor to have you here.

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. Vicki: Good to be here.

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Dixie: Tell me about yourself.

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How did you get involved in

animal rescue, and what do you do?

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Vicki: Okay.

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My career was in the marine

industry for 40 years,.

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But in 2014 I lost my son.

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He was 27 years old and we

were both avid dog lovers.

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We always had dogs.

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So when I lost him part of

the way I dealt with my grief

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was I dove into animal rescue.

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I started by helping at my local

shelter, they had a weekly dog

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run that they did, they call it.

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Rescue run club.

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So I started that and in fact it

started on his birthday, so the

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very first dog I ran with them was

on his birthday, in his memory.

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So I've just have done everything

in my son's memory to carry it on.

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So I just started out

doing that at the shelter.

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And then one thing led to

another and I started getting

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involved with different rescues.

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And then I stumbled across a friend

of mine that had, had fostered

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for take paws, rescue, so I got

involved with them pretty heavily.

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Dixie: What do you do with take paws?

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Vicki: Okay.

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At take paws.

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It started out where I just started

doing some I said I wanted to transport

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when I retired, so it was like a couple

of years before I retired from my job.

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And I worked shift work so I could,

I had one week on, one week off.

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So on my week off I would do transports.

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So that's how I got involved with take

paws, was just doing transports and then

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one thing led to another and I fostered

for them and now I'm a foster coordinator

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I've got over 30 dogs under me.

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And a group of volunteers that

that work with me , for my group.

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Dixie: I'd like to learn a little bit

more about your transports and why.

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You decided to go that route

with doing a transport.

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'cause that's a difficult thing.

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That's a lot of driving

depending on where you're going.

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And then I also would like to to talk

more about you being a foster coordinator.

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If you can start with the transports and

tell us where have you been and how many

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dogs were you transporting at one time?

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Vicki: I normally drive between here

and Franklin, Louisiana new Iberia.

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I have gone other places too,

but my weekly transport normally

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starts out of Crowley, Louisiana.

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And I have another lady

that drives with me.

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So she starts, she lives out that way

and she starts the transport and normally

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meets me around the Morgan City area.

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I live in Destrehan, Louisiana, so

I meet them in there and like I said

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we, transport for multiple rescues.

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Take paws, trampled rose, big easy rescue.

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Hail Mary, just multiple rescues, whoever.

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Everybody knows that I do this on

Mondays, so if they need a dog out of

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that area they'll call me up and ask me

to bring it back to the New Orleans area.

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But the reason I started, I

don't really know why I started,.

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There was just one day we were

talking, I said, oh, I'm off, every

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other week, so I could probably drive,

and I could probably go pick up.

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And once I did it, I got hooked.

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I really did like doing it.

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It's my main thing that I do like to do.

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I just feel like given the freedom

ride, I just think that's just

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something really good for me to do

in my son's memory that he would

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really think that was pretty cool.

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But I get a lot of joy out of it because,

they get in the car a little bit scared

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and, I play some soft music for 'em.

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They each get a new collar

when I pick them up.

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And we play the.

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Relaxation music.

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So normally my rides back to New Orleans

are pretty quiet most of the time.

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But it just, by the time we get

there, it just seems like they've

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got a big weight lifted off their

shoulder and they just seem a little

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bit calmer and they know they're safe.

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I really get a lot out of that,

it fills my heart to do that.

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Dixie: Now when you say a freedom ride,

I'm imagining because you're pulling

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out of these high kill rural shelters.

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Vicki: Yes.

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Most of the dogs are coming

out of high kill shelters.

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Most of them have been

on the euthanasia list.

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We do work with some other local

rescues out that way and get some,

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surrenders, owner surrenders.

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But primarily it is dogs that

we're pulling from the shelters

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to get off of the euthanasia list.

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Dixie: And how many do you do at one time?

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Vicki: That it just depends on the week.

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I've had up to 15 dogs in my car.

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Now I have a CX five Mazda crossover car.

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I they say I play Crate Tetris

to get all the crates in.

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So it just depends on the size

of the dogs, how many dogs I

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can actually, fit in my vehicle.

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Dixie: Yeah, you must be really good at

playing the Tetris then if you can fit 15.

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And that's a lot.

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Vicki: Yeah.

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That it is.

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Sometimes if it's a litter,

life is a life though.

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But we can put, some

in the crates together.

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But but mostly on Sunday nights

I go through the list and try

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to figure out my configuration

and, to make sure it's gonna fit.

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And sometimes . It gets close because

the dogs they say is 20 pounds is

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really 35 pounds, and that makes a big

difference in the crate, so I have had

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some oops moments where, I didn't know

if we were gonna fit everything in.

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And there's been a couple of times where.

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A dog had to , run shotgun

and sit in the passenger seat.

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And I don't like to do that too often

just because they're coming straight

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outta the shelter and you don't really,

know the temperament of the dog.

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So I like to keep 'em contained in a

kennel and not running loose in the car.

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But there have been a couple of

times we've had to pick the calmest

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dog to sit in the front seat,

because we ran outta crate space,

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Normally it works.

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Dixie: You said that you

play relaxation music.

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How did you come to start doing that?

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Did you try like different music or

was that a recommendation by somebody?

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, Vicki: In the shelter on in St.

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Charles Parish, they used to play

that in the in the kennels, and.

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While the the animals in the shelter,

it just seemed like it did calm

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'em a lot, so I just tried doing

it in the car, and it does work.

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I swear by it.

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Some people like to play other music,

but, that's what I end up playing.

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And it just seems to calm 'em down,

'cause they're a little stressed out

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when you first get 'em in the kennel.

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Dixie: It's funny that you say that

too because a while back I purchased

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this pet relaxation music device.

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It's this little thing that

you can put on the counter.

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You press it and it plays the

music , you could set it like 15

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minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes.

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It's got all the sounds on it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But and it's got like meditative

music and I got correct.

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I do the cat rescue and at the time we

had in a cat and he was very stressed.

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Sometimes when the cats get stressed,

they like to go on the floor.

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We were trying to solve

that behavior problem.

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So I said, you know what, I'm

gonna get it and I'm gonna try it.

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And it seems so stupid

at first, but it worked.

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It actually works.

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Oh, it

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Vicki: definitely does.

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People laugh at me when they

hear them, they're like, what?

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And I'm like, I'm okay.

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Try it.

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It works.

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But yeah I do that and, and we normally

end up coming back to New Orleans and,

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some people meet me in New Orleans.

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I'll stop in Metaire.

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Just various stops just depending on

what rescue I'm transporting from.

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How long, but does it like the

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Dixie: entire

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Vicki: trip

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Dixie: take.

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Vicki: The entire trip, usually I

eave my house normally around: 10:00

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AM the meetup time is usually in Morgan

City area around noon, once I get

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into Morgan City, , we don't rush it.

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We take our time , to transfer

the animals from one crate to

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another, and we like to take their

picture and give 'em a new collar.

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When we do all that and get

'em loaded up in my car.

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So it normally takes about

an hour for us to do that.

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And then I head back to New Orleans.

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But after I'll usually stay at,

take paws and help with the intake

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of the dogs that I get for them.

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I help with , the vaccinations

and, holding the dogs and

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getting 'em all settled.

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And then a lot of times if I'm bringing

any dogs back to my area for fosters, then

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I end up bringing the dogs to the foster.

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Meeting doing the introductions with

their animals if they have dogs.

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So sometimes, my day doesn't end until

six o'clock and I've had even days where

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I didn't even end until eight o'clock, and

then I've gotta unload my car, disinfect

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the crates, and wash all the linens.

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So it's a whole day affair every Monday.

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Dixie: How is it that you went

from doing the transports to

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being a foster coordinator?

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Vicki: There was this one

dog named Neo that was at St.

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Mary's Shelter.

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And when I would come on my transport

each week, I would see the same dog with

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a little bandana on just staring at me

in the kennel when I would walk through

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to see if there were any dogs that.

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The take paws might be interested in.

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And this one dog just kept staring at me.

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He was a little, bully

mix and I'm a bully lover.

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And he was a little brindle bully and

he just kept looking at me and I'm

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just like, we need to save this dog.

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We gotta save this dog.

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And so finally it was it was

like a Christmas Eve and I said,

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look if we don't get a foster for

this dog, I'm pulling this dog.

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I'm gonna foster it.

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So I did and I failed.

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So Neo is mine, but that's

how I started fostering.

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. At that time, that gave me four dogs, and

I'm like I don't think I can handle it.

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Fostering a dog with four pit

bulls already in my house.

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I started by helping that applications

and, helping another coordinator.

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And then again, one thing led to another

and it's why don't you just, just try

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to take a couple of dogs and it started

out where I was not gonna have any more

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than 10 dogs, and now I have 25 to 30, so

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Dixie: Wow.

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That's a lot.

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Vicki: Yeah it is a lot.

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We have multiple coordinators and,

it's just times are really, it's crazy.

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It's just never ending right now.

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And every one of us have about that many.

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It's just crazy.

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But, the dogs are all in foster homes and

trying to look for their forever homes.

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And, I stay pretty involved with

my fosters and try to go over there

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and take pictures and, we have some

outings together to make it like a

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group and, just to try to make it fun.

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'cause it, it can be.

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Hard on your heart.

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Some days, you get so attached

to these dogs and you wanna

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see them get a good home.

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And some days you think you

found that home and only to

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find out that it really wasn't.

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And then you've gotta keep on looking.

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But that's how I did.

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But , it's a tough one

because, there's just a lot of.

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Of pieces to the foster coordinating.

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You're not only just working, you're

finding the dogs, you're finding a

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foster father, the dog, you're going

over all the applications for that dog.

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And once the dog does get adopted,

you're really not finished because.

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If it's a puppy, then you gotta follow

it through, until it gets spayed or

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neutered when they're six months old.

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Pretty much, it's a six

month commitment whenever you

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Foster coordinate for puppies.

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And if anybody has an issue with their

dog after it's been adopted, they

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come back to the foster coordinator.

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So it's a lot of responsibility.

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Dixie: With doing the foster coordinating,

you said that you review the application,

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so , are you the one that actually

approves the adoption applications?

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Vicki: We have a lot to do with it.

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The director of the rescue has say

so in things too, but we do have a

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lot to do with it because we know

the dogs, I get my fosters involved

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heavily in, all the process because

they know the dog better than I do.

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So once I do the vet checks and.

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Do the home checks and kind of

talk, talk to the applicant.

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Then the next step is I have the foster

call them and let them talk about the dog

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to make sure this is gonna be a good fit.

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And then we set up a meet and

greet and that's all done by

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the foster most of the time.

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And then.

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Then we either get an adoption

or we keep on looking.

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So how many

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Dixie: fosters are under you?

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Vicki: I guess I have probably about 20

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that at any given time.

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I guess right now I've got 25

because each one has one, one dog.

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. I live Destrehan and St.

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Charles Parish, so most of my

fosters all lived out this way.

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And it's funny I'm a pitbull girl

and I love pit bulls, but most of my

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fosters are all little dog people.

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So most of the dogs I'm pulling under me

are small dogs, which I think is funny.

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Dixie: When you pull the dogs are you

primarily looking then in these like

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rural shelters that you transport from?

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Vicki: Yes.

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We, we just look at the Facebook all

the time just different posts from

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from the different shelters, from

different sites, different pages of

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people looking to rehome their dogs.

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, If I've got an available foster and I

see a dog that looks like their type,

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then, that's what I'm gonna try to

pull, just because I know that I've got

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somebody that'll take that type of dog.

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I wouldn't pull a bunch of pit bulls

and then i've got Chihuahua fosters.

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So it just depends on what

we see and, who's available

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of what dog we have room for.

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If we see a few dogs that we don't

have a foster far, then we've got a

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foster page for take, paws, and we'll

post it on there looking for a foster

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and, sometimes that's how you get

a new foster on your board then is,

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once they say, I'll take that dog.

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And then it's we can only take it if we

have a foster coordinator to handle it.

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So then that way that's how

you end up getting new fosters.

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Dixie: Yeah, and I know finding

fosters can be quite challenging.

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Vicki: It is.

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It's quite challenging.

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Just the same as just

finding people, to adopt.

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It's the whole process is challenging,

but we desperately need more fosters, we

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need more people to help these animals

it's just the numbers are growing,

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and , even now it just seems like there's

a lot of, people that are possibly

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leaving the country and they're having

to get rid of their animals before

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they head back to their home country.

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And we've seen an upswing in that as well,

but it's just the owner surrenders are.

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Unbelievable.

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It's just unbelievable since

COVID, everybody got dogs when

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they couldn't go anywhere.

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And now that, things opened up,

it just seems oh we're too busy.

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My job has me too busy and we can't

give time to the dog, I'm having a baby.

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I'm moving.

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Can't take the dog.

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It's just never ending.

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Dixie: What do you think is the most

successful way to find a new foster?

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Vicki: I use social media a lot,

since I've been transporting.

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A lot of people have started following

my page and so sometimes I'll put

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it out on my personal page and I'll

get, some people that I didn't even

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know were following me, actually.

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And they'll reach out

and say they wanna help.

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And so I use social media a lot

and, just word of mouth too.

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A a lot of my friends are, dog lovers.

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That's how I've managed

to build up my team.

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Dixie: What are you doing to primarily get

'em adopted or get seen to get adopted?

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Do you do like adoption events

or Primarily social media.

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Vicki: Both, we have

numerous adoption events.

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In fact, this week I

think we have five events.

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And then sometimes I'll even get my

fosters together and we'll go to a local

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dog friendly bar and just have a little

get together and we'll bring our dogs.

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I take a lot of pictures.

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I post a lot of pictures of

the dogs that I'm fostering.

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I don't foster too often just because

, I'm usually on the road and it's hard.

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But I lost a couple of my dogs

this year, so , I have taken

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in three puppies since then.

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But normally I don't.

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Foster too much, but the need is there.

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And I felt like I had a little

space in my home that I could try.

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But yeah, we use a lot of social

media though, and it's getting hard.

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I'm having some trouble on my social media

right now, just like trying to tag people.

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I'm running into some issues, so it's

getting it's getting hard to, to spread

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the word, because I was in Facebook

jail there last week for a while.

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In fact, I still can't tag companies.

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It won't let me do it.

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So I don't know, I

guess I'm still in jail.

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Dixie: Do you have any incredible

foster success stories of a dog

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that maybe came from a really bad

situation and got the perfect home?

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Vicki: Oh I just had one.

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It was awesome.

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There was this little.

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Scruffy dog I saw advertised on,

that somebody had found in the

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sugar cane fields in New Iberia.

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And I looked at this dog and I'm

like, oh my gosh, this dog is crazy.

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He was I don't think I've ever seen a

dog that looked like him, he looked like.

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A ewok.

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And so I said, I've got to have this dog.

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He's just so ugly.

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He's cute, and so we

found a foster for him.

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And we named him Wicket.

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And he just turned out

to be the coolest dog.

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But he got adopted by, in January.

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He got adopted in

January by a couple that.

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Lives in Long Island, New

York, and they also have a home

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here in the French Quarter.

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But Wicket was just a little

bit too big to put on the plane.

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He's 25 pounds or 27 pounds.

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So he is a little bit too big.

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He's too big to fit under the seat.

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We had to look for ground

transport to get him up there.

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We had it scheduled for him to leave.

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And with all these weather

systems that we had recently the

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transport kept getting delayed.

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So wicket went through four different

fosters to keep him here safe while he

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was waiting to get to his real family.

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And, finally after two months

we got him there last week.

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We got him there last week.

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And this dog is living the life now.

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They're sending pictures.

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He's on the beach roaming

the beach and he's got furry

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friends and they just love him.

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I guess it was worth the wait.

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So he's gonna be one of my favorites and,

there was another dog, his name was Chico,

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and he was found I think like around

right around Christmas time and it was

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another new Iberia dog and he was found.

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Running with a female dog and

they were about like a year old.

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And the female dog got adopted real

quick and then Chico, he was a mountain

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cur mix and he was the funnest.

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He was just crazy.

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He would just make you

smile to look at him.

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And we.

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Tried and tried to get this dog

a home and it just took forever.

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And finally after about two years,

he was wild hard to walk with.

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And I always said that he needed somebody

very active or like a runner and.

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Finally one of the girls that volunteers

with us asked if she could go pick up

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Chico and start taking him for this

run club that she was belonged to.

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And I'm like, oh, that's great.

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I think that's perfect.

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She started running with him

and she ended up adopted him.

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And this dog is just as happy as can

be and he's running in the run club.

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They all love him There.

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And, he ended up exactly where

he was supposed to be, but he

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was one of my favorite dogs.

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And we had just a hard time,

keeping him on with a volunteer.

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He went through a couple of volunteers.

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We even tried him in boarding where

I could, get to him and take him

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out on more outings to get him seen.

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And finally he landed the home

that, that he really needed.

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And so he's another one of my favorites.

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Dixie: That's amazing and that's

great too, that it was a volunteer

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'cause, I know with a volunteer

you'll be able to see 'em.

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You'll be able to get the updates,

even though you're getting the

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updates from the other one too.

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It just still makes it a

little bit more special.

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Vicki: Oh, absolutely.

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I get to see him all the time, I

think if I didn't have four dogs,

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I would've adopted it myself.

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'cause I just love this dog.

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And sometimes he even comes to some

of our events and we have this bond.

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'cause I used to take him out a lot

and they remember . Like even with the

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transports, I see dogs after a transport

and I really do think they remember you.

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They remember that you saved them,

that you gave them that ride.

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Dixie: I have to ask, with you being

so close to some of these dogs, are you

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picky about selecting an adopter for 'em?

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Vicki: I think so.

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I think I am I know their story

and, we don't wanna fail them again.

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And that reminds me of another one

that I'm struggling with right now.

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And in fact I was part of a rescue.

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A week ago with a hoarding case and

with Alyssa Muse, and I know you've had

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her on your show with , it was like a

chihuahua hoarding case and cruelty case.

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And one of the dogs that I got

from that, that I had tagged we

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had named her lavender and she

was totally emaciated and scared.

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Scared.

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And I had a.

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Approved adopter in mind for

her that was looking for.

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Exactly.

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A dog that looked like her.

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And I felt this was a calm home.

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It was a, single lady that

would be a good fit for her.

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'Cause she didn't need a, a home

that has a lot of traffic going

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through, just coming from the

situation that she came from.

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You want a little calmer

atmosphere for them to.

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Decompress and learn to trust again.

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And she was doing really

good in her foster home.

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We was putting some weight on her.

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Just in a week's time.

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She made a transformation

you wouldn't believe.

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And the lady that I had in

mind did want to adopt her.

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So we got her there.

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Got her to the lady and, not even

an hour after she had her, I was

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getting a phone call that they didn't

feel they were ready to adopt yet.

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And I just was crushed because I thought

this was the perfect home, for this dog.

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And now she's coming back and I just

felt like, she's been failed again.

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So I think, the next home will

I be a little bit pickier.

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Probably just because I feel I owe it

to this dog, if that makes any sense.

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But,, I felt bad that , she

went through this temporary.

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Journey, and then ended up coming back.

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But thankfully she came back to the foster

that she was starting to grow comfortable

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with and so it didn't seem to phase her.

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And dogs are amazing how they

adjust much better than people do.

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We hold grudges and dogs

just are so forgiving.

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It's just amazing.

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Dixie: Yeah at least they thought that

it wasn't gonna work out and they did

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return her back, and that's good that

she was able to go back with her foster.

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But I totally understand that because

I think what a lot of people don't

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understand when they're going to

adopt an animal, specifically from a

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foster based rescue, is how much time

fosters put in with these animals.

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You know when these

animals Oh, absolutely.

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Are when they're sick, they're

up all night with them.

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They're worrying about them, and

so you wanna make sure that they

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are gonna go to a home that gives

them the same amount of care,

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Vicki: oh, absolutely.

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We've taken them from a bad situation.

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We don't want them to

return to a situation.

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I know people have said,

oh, there's so many animals.

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Why are you being so picky?

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That's exactly why we're being

so picky, because, they've been

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failed before, and and they've been

mistreated and they deserve better.

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Dixie: Before we end the call, do you

have any final message for our audience?

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Vicki: Open our hearts to

help an animal in need.

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And sometimes, I guess what I said

the other day is . It hurts sometimes.

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It's hard to to give

up time for an animal.

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It hurts our heart to see them

suffer, but sometimes I think we

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have to go through that pain and

being a little bit uncomfortable.

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To see these animals

blossom into what they can.

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And once you do that it's so

fulfilling I know some people

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have said, oh, it's too soon.

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I just lost my dog our dogs

would want us to help another

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dog, and I truly believe that.

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Or I wouldn't have been able to take in

three puppies after I lost two of my own.

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And was it easy?

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No, it wasn't.

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And, but I think that's what they

would want me to do, and that's

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what my son would want me to do.

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It's just for us to open up our homes

and our hearts to help these dogs

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because there's too many of 'em.

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And and to help spread the word

about spaying, neuter and, keeping

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your dogs on heartworm prevention

because , there's too many animals.

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And if we don't do better with spay

and neuter and come up with a solution.

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To have less unwanted litters.

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We're just never gonna catch

up, it's just a vicious cycle.

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Dixie: Yeah, it definitely is.

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And I think that's a

great final message too.

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I couldn't agree more with that.

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I wanna thank you for coming on

today and it's amazing the amount of

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work that you're doing to get these

dogs into home with the transports

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and the foster coordinating.

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So thank you

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. Vicki: Oh, my pleasure.

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And like I said, it's what I

wanted to do in retirement and

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it's definitely what I'm doing.

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Dixie: Yep.

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It sounds like you're very involved.

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So I'm glad that these dogs have you.

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Vicki: Oh, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for having me on the show.

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And I've listened to several of your

podcasts and thank you for doing this.

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Dixie: All right.

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Thank you and I'm glad you're listening.

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That's it for today's

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